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Fuck off FC – Fuck the Fuck off FC

Jesus Christ, where to begin? 45 minutes of doing fuck all. Not once someone decides to tell these fuckers to fuck off. Put in a tackle, hurt one of them. Sadio being the only one doing something. Fuck the fuck off softlads. Two offside goals given, fuck the fuck off Taylor. Not the slightest bit of luck. We’re shit out of luck, for years now. Fuck that right off. How that 3d goes, can you fucking believe it? Fuck off with these absolute yarddogs. What a shit team, terrible. If only we could defend.

The club really needs to drop their balls back in their ballsack, buy players, tell Phil to fuck off with his request and stop pissing about.

The ratings then:

Think Migs is terrible unlucky with the 3d. Does so much well up until that point. Gets a 7 and will be fuming with his defenders.

What a top player to be, you can see it in everything he does. Trent was fucking great. Gets an 8 and is MotM

Matip, lethargic, N/A

Lovren, lethargi, N/A

Moreno was overal really good. Could do a bit better at their 2nd but deserved a goal. Gets a 7.

Gini was fucking terrible, lethargic and off the pace for 70 minutes. Had a good 20 minutes spell, where we scored. But that’s not enough Gini. A 4.

Emre? Come on man… gives away a daft throw in at the 2nd, let’s his man get a free run, again, at the first. Bad Emre.. very bad Emre. A 3.

Hendo shouldn’t play this deep when we don’t have Lallana or Coutinho in midfield. Too flat, not involved. Shit game all in all, a 5.

Salah.. shows all the promise doesn’t he? Not even at full speed now. Good game, a 7,5.

Jesus Bobby.. that first half? What the hell were you doing? Turned it up big time in the second half. Good penalty, great assist. A 6, can’t overlook that terrible first half.

Mane was our best man in the first half but somehow didn’t kick on in the second when the rest of the team was. Got kicked from the get go, terrible refereeing. A 7.

Subs:

Shit subs there Jurgen, absolute terrible. Gomez could only lose there. Milner makes no difference and Origi was unlucky. But poor choices and way too late.

 

Conclusion: fuck this off

 

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Eric Schipper
38 year old Liverpool and football fan. Hopelessly romantic about the game. Wants to deck the Football Gods time and again. Hates cheats and divers and how they get away with things.
  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    Hoping to see another scathing review, i think this club badly needs a SHOCK therapy. It is all too dandy and complacent.

    FC Hoff 3 FC Fuckoff 0

  • Anon A Mouse

    Wonder how many more transfer requests will be handed in before this window closes. Can see why Phil wants to run as far away as he possibly could. Don’t think Barca is the best option though, they sucked against RM.

    And then we have our beloved messiah telling us that there isn’t 5 better defenders to be had in the whole footballing world.

    I don’t care if this is the 1st or the 31st game of the season, nothing changed since the beloved messiah came into the club. Well maybe CL for a season.

  • Enjoyed reading this, look forward to more match ratings

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    Klopp prematch: “we know how and where to defend against Watford.”

    • Drewster

      We do know how, problem is we don’t have the ability to stop it still

  • anonymous98345

    Moreno shouldn’t get a 7, he was unsuccessful in 7 tackles, lost all of them. Terrible defending

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    Klopp is to blame: when he arrived, he expounded his philosophy of getting the backline in order before we can talk about attacking.

    To this day, he has failed to fix it. The LFC house is built on quicksand. Stop mucking around, Klopp.

    Take out the hacksaw: get rid of Mignolet — he is a confidence-sapping goalie. He cannot kick a freekick for my arse. Put in Karius and live with it.

    Lovren is also your achilles heel. Get rid and wait no longer. His presence makes worldclass defenders wobble. Fuck it and chop.

    Can we make up our mind about Moreno. He is not good enough. Sell and move on. Put in Robertson and LIVE WITH IT.

    • OldFlaky

      Agree, do it and let’s live with it until the next wobble. Btw where is my hacksaw, mine is over due…

  • Brighton Red

    trent ok maybe even moreno but the rest were utter shit, can’t see us in CL on this form, anyone think FSG are going to use this Coutinho bollocks to upset the fans enough to give them a reason to sell the club ??

    • Lfc4life

      Mane and salah were shit get a grip

      • Brighton Red

        maybe that was a bit harsh of me so lets put it this way they were pretty inneffective because the midfield lacked the nous to get the ball to them and the runs I was expecting from them were rarely in evidence, for that reason the marks I would give them would not be high. You say get a grip, tell me do you think that side playing like that will be able to keep a clean sheet and get a result in Germany ??

  • Shits. Offside. Thought it was a Newcastle peno.

  • I think it’s a bit harsh on Emre. He did some nice things in the game and also some mistakes. Don’t think it’s a 3 but not an 8 either.

    6 or maybe 7 …at a stretch.

  • KeithSA

    OK guys we drew the first game of the season a game we should have won expect for a bad decision. Yes a very tepid and average first half performance were we got bullied, but he second half we played decent enough to win. It certainly not razor blade time and its certainly not a disaster. Disappointing we chucked away 2 points but really its early days. Chelsea had a disastrous start last year and still went on to win to lets have a reality check.

    For me Gini had one of his worst performances in a red shirt and Migs needs to command his box more and without overreacting Karius for me is still the better option in goal, time will tell.

    The midfield did not click today and that is a concern but a fixable one so hysteria is certainly not the way to go.

    If Klopp feels he will get more out of a Meyer and Insigne which are today’s rumors I am happy for Phil to fuck off into the sunset as long as we get 120 plus mill for him I am over him already. I dont want a player who does not want to be here. If he stays with the promise that he can go next year like Saurez so be it, he can fuck off next year as long as he produces like Saurez did.

    One man does not make a team and certainly young Phil does have some great moments of sheer brilliance but does not grab the game by the scruff of the neck like a Gerrard, Suarez or a Messi and has gone missing in plenty of games as well. I certainly would be pissed off if we bought him for 100 mill plus there are better players out there for that price.

    Again a game we started shit but still would have won except for a ref blunder. and we had some really good moments to build on, disappointing but far from a disaster some people are screaming about. Bright note Moreno and Tent looked the business as did Salah and they will grow in confidence from here.

    Re posted this on here.

    • Riiseandshine

      -insert humble pie comment here-

      • KeithSA

        Oh its far from over young Phil is a blow I did not see coming but still optimistic for this year 🙂

        • Riiseandshine

          You’re way too optimistic…Southampton won’t see to us and neither will RBL and apparently these are the only two players on the planet…Can’t blame Coutinho. We’ve stagnated again, will lose our best player, again…Watched all around us strengthen ahead of us….again..

          • KeithSA

            You are going to run out of razor blades soon I should have bought shares

          • Riiseandshine

            And you’re still wrong about everything and can’t admit that I was bang on at the start of the Summer 🙂

          • KeithSA

            1 game does not make a season reality check please

          • Riiseandshine

            I’m talking about off the pitch….reality check yoself before you wreck yoself

          • KeithSA

            🙂 time will tell

          • Riiseandshine

            It will 🙂

          • Riiseandshine
          • Kylian Mmmbopp

            This isn’t one game. Myopia. This is a continuation if many seasons of abject defending

    • Garmoyle Gargoyle

      I agree about not wanting players who don’t want to play for us. Difficult thing will be to get to the position where we’re seen as an ultimate destination again, not a stepping stone or shop window.

      • KeithSA

        When we start wining things or at least a top 4 finish season it season out and a minimum of a quarter final spot in the CL.

    • RobbieTheReindeer

      Agree on many points Keith. Nice comment

  • Onyx

    So, it’s sunday morning, sun is shining. It’s time for a bit of reflection. Saw the highlights and overall we were far from bad.

    This is a side that will come close to Burnleys home record last season. All these big, strong lads are set out to frustrate and suffocate you. Marco Silva’s home record is incredible and he simply keeps on going.

    They needed an offside goal to not lose on the opening day. They needed all the luck in the world with mad bounces. Migs can save the first one with his face and the third may end up somewhere near the halfway line. Shit out of luck and we concede 2. On the other end, Matip can make it 2-4 and game over. His bounce off the bar doesn’t go in. Margins.

    Yes we can do loads better. We will be loads better. But it isn’t suddenly the end of the world.
    Up the CL Qualifying Reds!

    • gegenpressing

      I get that and I feel better about it. That said, it’s that we have seen it all before. Bournemouth(a) and Swansea(h) last season, for example. Silly goals and gifts to the opponents after we have gained control of the game. Inability to see out a slender lead without shooting ourselves in the foot and creating panic. Still think a more dominant and commanding (not necessarily even better) keeper and the outcome yesterday is different. Also annoyed that we didn’t take our chances- 2 great set-piece chances (Matip and Lovren), Gini chance and 2 Salah chances (through on goal) all went begging. Conceding 3 goals to bottom fodder is terrible and we saw it last year (aforementioned Bournemouth and Swansea) and the year before (Norwich). It is far too easy for these teams to score against us…

      • Onyx

        Fully with you there, but Watford isn’t a bottom fodder though. They’re one of the few to rival Everton. That Silva knows what he’s doing.

        • gegenpressing

          We’ll see. They finished 17th last season. They also didn’t have to work too hard to get goals against us yesterday (we pretty much gave it to them). If we had been organized yesterday, we probably only concede one goal.

          • Onyx

            Think they won’t lose a lot of games at home and will outmuscle the teams that rely on muscle as well.

          • gegenpressing

            Yeah, they definitely rely on muscle and being physical (they are a budget United team). Think we should have had a better plan for that (like we did in the away game last season). Seemed to take our players by surprise and took a while for us to get into the game and get our groove back. Also a lot of bad calls by the refs. Won’t judge too much from the first game but it is now even more crucial that we get a good result on Tuesday and resolve this Coutinho issue. We are already playing catch-up…

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            win the next league game and we’re a point up on last season!! silver linings and all that.

          • gegenpressing

            Aye, a lot of football yet to be played,

    • Red One

      A draw isnt the worse and by no means the best, we will improve.

    • Riiseandshine

      But those things didn’t happen. You make your own luck and our midfield couldn’t make a cup of tea…(worst analogy I’ve ever made)
      The club needs to act (for once) in the best interest of the fans and sign the players we need to sort the problem areas…
      It is all doom and gloom because how they’ve made it.
      Most negative start to a season I can remember. Even Klopp looks like he’s turned from believer into doubter

      • Onyx

        I know, and the fume over not winning and all the issues aren’t suddenly gone. But there’s some perspective in shades of doom and gloom. Keep Phil, win on tuesday, sign two players before the window slams shut and we’re good to go.

        • gegenpressing

          Social media also makes it easier for doom and gloom to spread (not sure there is any fanbase that is happy right now). Also think a lot of people have concluded that FSG are no good so regardless of what happens, it will be spun negatively. Like you said, the best way to lift the mood is to improve results on the field…

          • Riiseandshine

            They reap what they sow…

          • gegenpressing

            Doesn’t bother me either way… just think context is important…

        • Riiseandshine

          Listening to Klopp we’re signing nobody. Not much point keeping a player with a “sore back”

          • Onyx

            Maybe we need to take him to the vet

          • Riiseandshine

            I’d love to see him get “fixed”

      • gegenpressing

        Think the off-field issues probably overshadowing on-field ones. A draw yesterday wasn’t the worst result in the world- it was just how it came about with the same familiar failings. Maybe things will become clearer by the time the transfer window closes. Still think the club have some aces up their sleeves. Hope this Couts distraction doesn’t overshadow everything else…

        Spurs looking like they picked up Davinson Sanchez- would have liked to see him come to us to compete with the CBs (in addition to a more established CB)

        • Riiseandshine

          You mean Spurs strengthened without any fuss. Like a professional club. That must be nice

          • gegenpressing

            Well, he is their first signing (we’ve signed 3). If we had anywhere near the window Spurs are having, our fans would have lynched someone. That said, it’s obvious Daniel Levy knows what he is doing (Sissoko apart)…

          • Riiseandshine

            They don’t need the players we do. Add to that the fact that of our 3, one is a championship player and the other is a youth player..

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            don’t forget nkoudou, and jansenn. Over £50m of shite squad players

          • gegenpressing

            Everything deserves context as it’s rarely ever just good or bad…

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            looks like they’ve either passed on targets through the summer or waited until most movement has happened in the hope that there will be less competition for the ones they decide to go for.

            Davinson is 21 and I’ve heard numbers up to £35m !! He’s purely depth and prospect for them cos they have a defence already although they should buy a full back.

            Starting with a balanced side should make it easier in the window.
            Our failings are less about recruits (yes we want more) and more about the zonal system we try to implement and players like gini & bobby (ie midfielders) having brainfarts when defending.

          • Riiseandshine

            For me it’s simply desire…The simple desire to get to the ball before your opponent..to win second balls..We just don’t have it. Why is it we can’t get our players up for these matches? They think that they’re better than they are…we have a bunch of nonces running around looking to play tippy tappy football all the time. terrified that they might get their hair ruffled. Until we have players with that desire we’re screwed.

        • Onyx

          He isn’t coming, not for sale.

          • gegenpressing

            Reports that he refused to board the team bus to get to an away game to try and force the move.

          • Onyx

            No reports of that by the real trusted sources. So I’ll swerve that.

          • gegenpressing

            Thanks…Little chance of a top team letting a player get away with that sort of behaviour anyway (see Dortmund with Dembele)

  • gegenpressing

    As much as I don’t want to slag Migs off for that match, a title winning goalkeeper has to save at least one of those goals…All were from his 6-yard box which signifies a lack of command of his area and/or communication with his defense. Don’t see Courtois, De Gea or even Lloris conceding that 3rd (I know it was offside but the way the Britos was able to easily push him to one side tells me he isn’t aggressive enough about protecting his area). When you add to that the appalling distribution (kicked a free kick straight into touch, threw directly to an opponent in addition to his normally terrible kicks) and yellow card for time wasting, I think he had a pretty poor game overall (7 is way too generous). I know he did well back end of last season but it’s still the same old Migs. In contrast, Pickford had an excellent game yesterday keeping his team in it, commanding his box and winning his team at least 2 points (30 million sounds like a lot but it’s days like yesterday that mean the difference between leaving with 3 points and with 1 point). Think I am just sick of the entire defense (and maybe even the midfield). Those bumbling idiots we have back there don’t deserve a title…

    • KeithSA

      Agree Migs was piss poor

    • Riiseandshine

      He did plenty of shouting in the tunnel on the way onto the pitch though…Usually the sign of a player trying to cover up his own deficiencies…He’s shit, he’s always been shit and he always will be shit

  • NorseDweller

    On reflection and after coming down from some glasses of the good stuff, I reckon there was a need for the following jolting reality check: Fail to strengthen the defence, expect old ghosts to come a-haunting!

    This should hopefully serve to:
    +Heighten focus for a “switched on” performance on Tuesday and beyond
    +Ensure we bring in some quality before the transfer window shuts
    YNWA

    • Oroku-Saki

      That’s what I’m hoping for mate, but based on recent history (past 4 seasons), we will not be fixing our issues with defence and midfield adequately. Henderson DOES NOT belong in the starting XI. Lovren and Matip need a leader.
      It’s all a massive case of deja vu right now…

  • anonymous98345

    Moreno was terrible in the tackle, think he lost out on every one of them

  • Riiseandshine

    So according to twitter world Klopp and FSG have fallen out. That was quick wasn’t it?

    • KeithSA

      Its BS ignore

      • Riiseandshine

        Same was said about Coutinho wanting a move this Summer

        • KeithSA

          Pearce has already debunked it on twitter

          James Pearce ✔ @JamesPearceEcho
          No chance mate. Very little of stuff that’s “all over Twitter” is actually true.
          11:39 AM – Aug 13, 2017

          • Riiseandshine

            Pearce?….”FSG absolutely don’t want Klopp”…that Pearce?

          • KeithSA

            No there is no truth that Klopp want to walk or is frustrated with FSG

          • Riiseandshine

            I’m sure he’s thrilled that he’s at a “big club” that can’t sign a player unless he’s in a youth team or the championship…Or Italy (same as the championship)

          • Riiseandshine

            hhhmmmmmmm….He’d better be right, for once

          • Pearce also said there was no chance of Coutinho handing in a transfer request.

          • KeithSA

            Coutinho said that him self that’s were we all got it from

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      if they have had a disagreement it’s FSG (Edwards/Gordon) not wanting to sell Couts this summer while perhaps Klopp is ok with it. His statement saying if the club for eg doesn’t want to sell, well my job is to work with the players that are here.

      Kind of funny if it’s that way around!

  • MightyDiego

    Klopp feeling what is was like for Brendan.

    • Riiseandshine

      This is anfield is that way 🖕🏻

  • 44yearsAfan

    Dont know what to say really so i can only reiterate the article and aim this at…….well i dont know really just someone or everyone at the club your a fucking embarrasment so just F U C K O F F

    • Onyx

      Luckily the day after life isn’t that dark.

  • RedNeve

    So, the Couts situation is now a ‘Club Matter’ and out of Klopp’s hands??
    HTF did it get from “If I say he’s not for selling, he’s not for selling”

    • Riiseandshine

      It’s all bullshit….the whole lot of it. A fucking scam where the fans are mugs..I was actually going to buy a jersey this year…fuck that!

      • RedNeve

        It’s alway us innit? As soon as we start to believe we could have a decent run at things, shit happens!! To think a few weeks ago it was all excitement about possibly getting Keita and VVD. now I’m frightened to put Sky Sports on incase the fucking banner says Couts has gone!!
        I’m Pissed right off mate.

        • Riiseandshine

          He’ll go before the window ends. Klopp been easing into the announcement since Hong Kong. Another window that FSG and the upper management have failed the fans. All those mugs in Hong Kong, Germany, Dublin lining up to throw money at the club. Meanwhile the rug will continually be pulled out from underneath us. Like it always has been since 2005. I defy anyone to tell me I’m wrong or that I’ll be eating humble pie this time. All the “negative” comments I’ve made have been validated..unfortunately. Maybe Klopp isn’t the man thought he was..because today’s line up was a chicken shit lineup and his comments afterwards were a fucking joke…

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      I assumed the owners had talked to klopp and edwards all the way through this (or Klopp & edwards talked to FSG about it) and got/gave the message they didn’t want to let him go, so came out with the announcement that he would not be sold.

      But there’s a kind of suggestion here that the club took it out of Klopp’s hands unilaterally which doesn’t really make sense. If he said let him go I don’t want him here, then why would the club not follow that and coin it in?

      Klopp said we are not selling, FSG came out and backed it up. Is there something here I’m missing?

      • 44yearsAfan

        Your missing nowt mate. Its all subdifuge and rhetoric from the whole fucking lot of em and its Klopp that has to face everyone and answer the questions. I said a couple of weeks back that FSG will take what they can out of their “investment” get the club worth over a billion and sneak away quietly after selling us to some chinese corp. Klopp is being made to look like a right twat and there isnt a damn thing he can do about it. It wouldnt surprise me one bit if he said “fuck it, im off” as a charachter from “We still kill the old way” said “Full of piss and wind” and the fucking lot of em are. Jokers mate absolute jokers

      • RedNeve

        Yes that’s exactly the vibe I got from it too. ” You’ll have to ask the club” Maybe this was due to the media reporting Couts alleged unhappiness at Klopp about his role in the team?
        There’s been so much nonsense written that it’s hard to draw any conclusions but, like you, I Sensed something different today.

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          I didn’t really sense any change other than he passed it onto the club – which isn’t particularly controversial as once he gives his yay/nay the club handle the logistics of it all as with any player admin.

          But there seems to be a suggestion of change from various posts , that’s why I asked if I was missing something.

          • RedNeve

            Sorry! I misread it. I haven’t seen any media outlet stating that no but, it’s just a bit of a shift in his retort. Maybe I’m reading to much into it.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            I meant posters (elsewhere). even graham kelly is talking about a split between klopp and the owners, not that I have great faith in what he says.

          • RedNeve

            I don’t have great faith in Graham Kelly either. This has tarnished the excitement of the new season for me.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            it was an interesting move when fsg came out and repeated klopp’s claims that he wouldn’t be sold, and he goes on to say that if the club chooses not to sell a player, his job is still to work with the players he has.

            I’ve read elsewhere that the theory is FSG play the bad cop forbidding couts’ move rather than Klopp since he has to work with the guy on a day to day basis and get performances out of him.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            more than that performance? ha ha.

        • RedUntilDead

          Maybe Klopp feels like now the season has started, he wants to concentrate on the team and doesn’t wasn’t the circus that is currently the situation with PC as a distraction for the players he has at his disposal right now. For this reason, he may want the club to be taking care of it ? I dunno, it’s a strange one to call.

          • RedNeve

            Yes mate. Probably right there.

    • Elvis Gegen-Pressly

      Or maybe it’s Klopp’s way to tell the media “stop asking me every single time!”

      • RedNeve

        It must get annoying for him.

    • Onyx

      Because everybody said enough on it. Now Klopp won’t get the questions anymore and FSG don’t talk to the press anyway. Phil isn’t going anywhere.

      • RedNeve

        Cheers

    • gegenpressing

      Think Klopp is doing that so he doesn’t keep getting questions on the issue (he can just tell them to ask FSG). Listened to the post match conference and it didn’t sound to me like he was preparing groundwork for Couts to be sold.

  • Delhi Belhi

    I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Not signing a CB AND a mf this window would be nothing short of a disgrace. Should lead to the eventual sacking of whoever makes this decision klopp/fsg/edwards

  • Koma

    After all the talks of bringing young players like grujic, Kent and others that made the squad big, where were they? What was the point of bringing a sub on 80th min. I don’t think we have progressed much in game management. We have ultra thin squad. Although I know it’s the start of the season and all but yeah that’s the paranoid me.
    Also I though Moreno was the best player our there.

  • Riiseandshine

    Make do FC…making do for too long. Buy the player we need for the positions we need or just FUCK off!!

  • Riiseandshine

    I hope hoffenheim do the job. Fuck FSG and their big champions league payday. It’s not deserved. Dangerously close to fucking Klopp off too. Where’s the fucking progress? Another season of mediocre bollocks ahead, full of Lallana and Henderson fucking sound bytes..wish I could hand in a fucking transfer request. Muck…..fucking muck!

    • Elvis Gegen-Pressly

      All this after just 1 game?? Considering it’s away, I’ll always take draws as a good start. Not the best but it ain’t bad.

      • Riiseandshine

        Pure shite. You think we have a hope in the champions league? It’s not just one game, it’s two seasons and one game…same mistakes, same weaknesses and same ignorance in sorting it out

        • Elvis Gegen-Pressly

          There’s always hope in the new season, be it in the league or CL.

          • Brighton Red

            be fair mate this was utter crap ~ you think we are going to get the results we got against the top sides again this year ??

          • Elvis Gegen-Pressly

            I don’t know mate… if I know, I’m gonna be rich betting. In any case, I’m just saying it’s not doom and gloom. We were flying at the start of last season isn’t it? And do consider the manner at which the goal was scored. Are we defending really bad? I don’t know cause I’m no expert… but I won’t use “disastrous” to describe last game.

          • Brighton Red

            are we defending really bad ~ not bad in open play so much but from set pieces absolutely without a doubt. The reason I think we were utter crap was because we lacked creativity without Coutinho and Lallana, neither will play against Hoffenheim and I think our CL campaign could well be shorter than the last one ~ if our performance against Watford was twice as good it was still nowhere near adequate, the only reason I’d say it wasn’t diastrous was because we avoided defeat, there has been no improvement with regards to sorting out our basic problems from last year as far as I can see and I thought our two wide men would have been more effective than they were.

          • Elvis Gegen-Pressly

            Come to think of it… if we lacked creativity against Watford and still managed to score 3, then it’s quite good news actually.

            I agree with you on the defense bit. It’s always squeeky bum time with set pieces. Let’s see if ee managed to upgrade before the window closes. VVD should do the trick but it’s getting too risky to continue pursuing him.

          • Brighton Red

            yes we scored three and there is a certain logic to your reply but by creativity I really meant the sort of play that set up the first goal, I think we’ll need more of that against the better sides. Another option would be to play two quick wingers get crosses in and feed two strikers but that won’t happen.

          • Elvis Gegen-Pressly

            Klopp always go with 3 up front but we’ve found success with 2 strikers. For Klopp’s 3 front to work, the guy in the middle is key… that’s Couts or Lallana.

            If Couts go, then we definitely need to strenghten there. Clearly Can/Gini is not in the same mould.

    • Stromdiddily

      There has to be a limit for how much a manager can improve a player. If you start out with a bunch of 5s, 7s and 8s are a pretty decent return. Problem is 8s watch players run right by them on set pieces and 7s hack clearances off their own players…

    • gegenpressing

      You he Hoffenheim eliminate us?

      • Riiseandshine

        Written in anger…

  • Eloquent as always there, Eric 🙂 Fully agree on everything!

  • Riiseandshine

    They can do what they want. No threat there. Jurgen will fucking pat them
    on the back and none of them will ever be replaced….the club can fuck right off. Fans get mugged off yet again by this shower of shitehawks…fucking nonces

  • Stan Dinaround

    Clearly no jeopardy save fans moaning.. Seems everytime we play a lower table team, arroigance kicks in and no one even tries.. fact is, Coutinho would be well out of it if he can leave.. This lot deserve a fucking slapping, not a fucking hug…

    • Koma

      Just imagine the situation, klopp so angry that he does not hug anyone. That would be a slap indirectly.

      • Stan Dinaround

        If thats as harsh as you willing, wer’re screwed..

        • Koma

          That was to start with.

  • KeithSA

    piss poor the first half no midfield better in the second and Migs needs to come for the corners very weak effort shit off side goal to snatch 2 points off us we need to be much better than this very disappointing

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      that Gini useless stooping header at that corner just summed up the players today except a couple of them. think the physicality ran them ragged.

      • KeithSA

        Certainly unsettled them until Klopp told them at halftime to get stuck in.

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          we were a bit hesitant in the first game first half against arse last year too – and went on to concede 3 goals, and you couldn’t put that down to physicality!!

          I thought we had put the 3 goals conceded to bed this season (10 of the 42 goals last season was from 3 games – arse, b’mouth, swans), particularly after our run in where we ground out results.

  • nico250gto

    Enough of Klopp bear hugs…he needs to use the hairdryer treatment when we are this awful and kick their asses before the game starts. The hardest kick should be reserved for couts… Overpampered primadonnas!

    • Oroku-Saki

      Soft cunts. Cower in the face of physical opposition.

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    christ on a bike chelski got a second. if they snag a draw I’ll be so pissed. Come on you burnley cunts!

  • RedOrDead

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder…as is the player ratings…I reckon everyone will have a different perception of that match given how fucked the fuck off we are today.

    I respect your ratings Eric, but struggled to agree with all of them, but that’s football – no offence meant

    🙂

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      hey man, put your ratings down here. let’s see them?

      • RedOrDead

        Ok fella:
        Migs 7 (some great saves & some nervous moments)
        Moreno 7 (real pleasure to see some maturity from him)
        Lovren 6 (just for that goal-saving block, otherwise he was just being Lovren)
        Matip 5 (probably his worst performance in a red shirt)
        TAA 8 (love his youthful exuberance – getting stronger in defending too)
        Can 6 (just for the ball take-down & run on the left – 1st half non-existent)
        Hendo 5 (not Captain material for me – was dominated in MF)
        Gini 3 (90 mins of ‘where is he’ – oh there he is shooting – the fuck was that)
        Salah 7 (constant threat, but was in 4 gear this game)
        Firmino 6 (1st half was AWOL for him, tried much harder 2nd half)
        Mane 8 (shits the fuck out of defenders – tried too hard 1st half though)

        Klopp 6 (sort the fucking defence out – subs were a mystery)

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          ah, I think you’re a bit more generous than me.
          I think the physicality unsettled us because they also outnumbered us in MF. Just played a 442 and pushed up hard on us.
          So the MF were never going to win that battle and it made them look bad and we got a bit frazzled by it, which then leads to players making mistakes / not able to keep their composure.

          Klopp really has to deal with that not just parked buses, teams outnumbering us in the middle. Swans did it last year too and made it 2 tough games for us.

          It’s amazing how some didn’t look ready for the season. Firms has been poor all summer, gini not at the races at all, Hendo hasn’t played since february.

          I’m very troubled right now. It’s only one game and the goals flowed pretty well – and maybe we’ll be better with parked buses, but I don’t like that we get outnumbered in MF and can’t deal with it. Lots of teams will have seen that.

          • RedOrDead

            Feeling pretty troubled myself too; cannot see a difference in LFC defence/midfield from this season to last – granted the attack has been enhanced (and gladly so having Salah join us), but that was not the area that needed strengthening – we so so needed the defence strengthening & trained properly, but again have avoided to – yes, the MF needed bulking up with class players (NKeita would have been much welcomed) – but I think we need a leader/bulldozer type like Arturo Vidal/Nainggollan in that MF – I personally wouldn’t feel I’d want to fight for Hendo as my leader; his body-language never shows as a leader & that filters through to the team – I reckon if we get VvD, he should be Captain?

        • Onyx

          Can a 6 is a travesty. Poor tackle for their first dangerous moment that turns into the corner we conceded from. Then he led his man run free during that corner.

          Then he gives the ball away with the backheel from which they score. Where he stands still instead of closing his man down. Can’t be a 6 mate, when you’re involved in 2 goalconceding moments.

          • RedOrDead

            Don’t disagree mate – I just gave him 2 extra points for that take & run on the left – probably far too generous yes 🙂

  • Daryl Cavanagh

    My God amp glad I don’t pay for sky anymore. Sounded like total rubbish

  • Drewster

    Sorry Eric, no way was Migs a 7. Maybe a two. Should’ve come for the first and it’s about time he flattened the opposition for the third. Migs should be our third choice. He must fuck right off. Can wasn’t great but was better than Hendo. Midfield were poor an that where we lost it

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      he was impeded for the 1st, nearly saved it too. but the defending was awful.

      • Drewster

        Stood rooted on the line, so wasn’t impeded. Should’ve have come. We need a commanding keeper. Migs isn’t it, never has been and never will be. Move on.com

      • Drewster

        Just want to post this article from Football Whispers here for you to show I’m not the only one who saw the first goal was the keepers ball. Time for Migs to head off into the sunset. I sure hope Karius or Ward are chosen for tomorrows game.

        https://www.footballwhispers.com/blog/klopp-blame-liverpools-inability-defend-set-pieces

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          well he wasn’t getting past the watford player who is allowed by the ref to interfere directly with him – poor reffing.

          Also it’s a poor argument that he should go to a ball that comes down where it did – within a couple of yards of the front post, where a touch sends it flying towards the goal.

          Firstly the front post guys (attacker and defender) are favourites to get this ball so you come out and you can only jump behind them – Kaboul gets serious height. So if they make contact, it’s in the net and migs is flapping in the air with everyone wondering what he’s doing.

          Secondly if it gets over those front guys as it did, we have a player right there behind the front 2 and there simply isn’t time for migs to be ready for the kaboul flicked on header and then go out and intercept when he misses it. Just not reality.

          So totally disagree with the footy whispers guy (as per normal I have to say).

          Okaka’s run means he comes in from behind Bobby essentially but him and the other MFs are all poor – as they have been before. It’s not the defenders, it’s the MFs defending that is our problem. Palace last year, Hull too, it’s the same thing, Hendo, Can, Gini, Bobby, they all make mistakes in the box.

          Even the bournemouth loss the MFs collapse into the back line rather than provide a shield.
          Partly coaching for zone transition but they all make mistakes.

  • Saravana Kumar

    The kids would have done better than Can and gini…

    • Stan Dinaround

      I didnt even know he was playing till he got kicked.. Fucking shameful.

  • Saravana Kumar

    Gini should not start once lallana is back… even Can we need to think a lot….
    We can’t be playing like this with CL qualification just next week….
    Hoffen will surely know what to do… get set pieces…and the goals….

  • special siren

    Chelsea making me feel a fraction better.

    • Shrek scored for Bluenoses in 45+1 tho…not feeling too much better

      • special siren

        They’ve looked awful though. Better teams will batter them I feel.

  • Chelsea getting thrased as we speak…3 cards and 2 goals behind in less than 40 minutes

  • Lovren 5.5, did have few last ditch tackles and was a threat in front of Watford goal.But very nervous, excellent long ball for Bobby for Salah’s goal tho.
    Matip would get a 3 if not for that post, didn’t jump for the first goal, and fell to the ground for the second.Very weak in the air defensively.His form concerns me, wasn’t so good in a preseason too, as he was last season.Still a 4 for him.
    Migs a 6, bad distribution overall, but I can’t blame him for the goals, defending set pieces is a team effort.

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