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Live Game Cafe! Watford vs Liverpool

Welcome to the first Live Game Cafe of the 2017-2018 PL Season!

Live Game Commentary will begin 30 mins prior to kickoff!

We will be providing minute-by-minute of breaking action from the game especially for those who can’t watch the game Live.

Meanwhile, please enjoy the comments section as usual.

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  • gegenpressing

    @Brighton Red, your 2nd (1st?) team not doing badly…just rushing their passes a bit…

  • OldFlaky

    So…how many hopes or believes Brighton will beat Sheiky?

  • OldFlaky

    Thank you Burnley, we can pay back the service by beating, ehh…west ham?

  • Drewster

    Maybe we should’ve bought Steve Mountie. He’s a goal scoring machine. Huddersfield top of the log

    • Ian96

      Yep, Hudds did well today, so did Burnley. Shame we couldn’t close out the show at Watford.

      • gegenpressing

        There must be something psychological there….As soon as that ball went out for a corner, I felt we were in trouble…The players must feel it too and it leads to panicky decisions from otherwise good and calm players…

  • nico250gto

    Pls burnley dont lose this

    • C American Con

      Wish granted son.

  • RedOrDead

    Chavs down to 9 men – Fabric Ass 2nd yellow

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    remember conte started badly last season too ,then finished with 93 pts.

    • RedOrDead

      I know – I was hoping that would be our story this year…

    • special siren

      Yes write them off at your peril media. The daily mail already saying they’re in crisis like they didn’t win the title in May and just bought a 60m striker and a couple of other players. If that’s a crisis, I’d hate to hear what they think of us.

      • gegenpressing

        Probably because Conte hasn’t looked particularly happy with things and the last title defense they had…

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    morata gets one back, burnley statues.

  • RedOrDead

    Bollox, I took Morata out of my Fantasy team cos he was woeful pre-season…now goes & scores!!

  • RedOrDead

    Hazard watching this chav performance & the squad for this season…how many bet on him leaving before the TW shuts – maybe to the NW!

    • gegenpressing

      Don’t think Chelsea have ever sold a player they wanted to keep

  • special siren

    Klopp saying if fsg sells players he has to accept it. Big turn around from no one leaves or comes in unless I say so.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      tells a story for sure

    • nico250gto

      Huge turn around. Doesnt bode well. Especially after a horrendous game.

    • Quicky Zebra

      he’s still the employee.. he doesnt deserve this… Read somewhere that FSG initially approached Ancelotti who highlighted that he needs a new spine starting from the GK DM etc.. Klopp was happy to work on the players with training.

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        well, Mike Gordon and Edwards are going to say the players brought in are good enough – cos they vetted them or the scouts and Edwards did – and Klopp has improved them.

        Ancelotti is only going to work where he has top players given his pedigree and we just don’t have the money to do that.

        • Quicky Zebra

          Sometimes I feel it’s David Moores’s fault… If only he hadn’t sold the club to Hicks and Gillet. W city coming in.. we have been playing catch up ever since.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            but DIC (dubai) have gone bust. what would have happened to us then?

      • nico250gto

        If that is true and as much as fsg has improved the state of the club, it will only get us to certain heights but not the top.

        • Quicky Zebra

          Im really desperate for Klopp to succeed but if you can’t support him w the players he needs than don’t blame him if he’s not successful

          • nico250gto

            Yes indeed he should be supported with the players he needs but in certain cases klopps sets his teams too attack minded. Yet he is the 3rd season and we cant defend set pieces.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            we are so shite at them it’s not funny. that front post guy fucking up is so common too, doesn’t seem to matter who it is.

          • nico250gto

            No it’s not funny and i’ve gotta feeling it will get worse. The coutinho saga will not help the team morale

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            i think you have to allow a bit for 1st game stuff. as physically tough as it gets in this league and away from home and being outnumbered in MF.

            in someways it’s a good wake up call for the lads. might be the best thing to happen to us even though the ref fucked us at the end.

    • gegenpressing

      Maybe he’s sick to death of the distractions and they are trying to find a way out

      • special siren

        Maybe but it’s not looking good anyhow.

    • RedOrDead

      End of the day, he doesn’t own the club – owners are businessmen & have no concept of football. This is so sad to see, but the modern footballing world – feel for Klopp so much, but controversially, maybe this was Rodgers’ Achilled heel (the owners).

      • special siren

        I think you’re right, the one constant in the last 7 years, through Roy Hodgson, Kenny, Brendan and klopp was the owners.

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          what does that prove?

          at the end of the day they have backed every manager they’ve had.

          • special siren

            No I’m not saying they haven’t and I’m not saying they’re bad, I just don’t think any of the managers above have had as much control over transfers etc that has been claimed.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            they get lists of players based on various parameters the manager gets to choose and then its getting the deal over the line. If the parameters are not good enough the manager has to say something.

            Every scout setup comes up with lists. It’s not the manager doing the scouting.

          • special siren

            But klopp says there’s only 1 defender he wants, his number 1. But our defence is a shambles so why is he not looking at this list?

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            yeah I know. with keita i can see the logic, there isn’t a clone of him out there, so you have to do things differently if you can’t get him.

            Then again, VVD is reasonably unique and already up to PL speed is a big deal when you need a leader not just another defender. See how we weren’t up to speed today.

          • special siren

            Yes, I agree. I understand why he only wants his number 1 targets tbh, but if he won’t compromise we will have more days like today.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            especially defensive targets. like there’s NO centre backs, really?

          • special siren

            For example Brendan saying no balotelli but they signed him 2 weeks later.

          • RedOrDead

            In hindsight, I think you’re right – problem I personally have is still considering LFC as still being powerhouse club…sigh!

            The owners can only back the club with what they’ve got to back it with, but on the flip-side, FSG said they can compete financially with any club…rhetoric I know, but still need to put the money where their mouth is.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            the problem is with so many uber clubs now it’s tough getting the best players. Add in that teams don’t need the money (eg red bull, PL money). So even though we have more to spend now and aren’t losing money anymore there are new barriers to getting players.

            Look at Neymar going to PSG. it’s a joke league relatively, but he’d rather have an easier time through the year and focus on the CL.

        • nico250gto

          Could be but who knows…

        • herrdoktorprofessor

          not buying that shit. Somehow the owners CAN be arsed to buy great attacking players but somehow CAN’T be arsed to buy quality defenders? It’s all about coaching. FSG isn’t coaching the players

          • special siren

            Well who ever is buying is doing something wrong then. Could be all of them together. But Stevie wonder can see our defence is fucked but all the staff at the club can’t.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      have to say, they came out and said couts would not be sold. However, we know that should that be the case, next summer he will be sold. That won’t be klopp’s choice but it wouldn’t make sense to keep him if he still wanted to go and he’s stayed for another season.

      • special siren

        I honestly believe the deal has already been done.

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          I doubt it, particularly given we’re not even close to getting our own players in. No way they sanction the sale without getting players we want in.
          The agent joorabchian is challenging the club to make barca’s problem liverpool’s problem. that’s not the way to take on JWH when couts is on a 5yr deal. he’ll happily pass up £100m to get one over an agent – IF it makes sense for the club.

          • nico250gto

            These money sucking agents are further ruining football.

          • special siren

            Oh I really hope so

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            they wouldn’t come out with that statement and then do a massive U turn without a pretty major change on the ground.
            Basically communications broke down Friday morning so they came out with that statement to make it near pointless couts handing in a txfer request. He still did it but FSG can’t just about face now unless we get say 3 players in that really strengthen us.

          • special siren

            A few people are now saying klopp wants him gone and the owners don’t. They think if couts stays he will be frozen out like sakho. Klopps comments are interesting to say the least, sounds like he does want him gone.

          • gegenpressing

            If Klopp wants him gone, he will be gone…

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            hmmm, sakho still around?

          • gegenpressing

            He’s gone from the team, isn’t he? Doesn’t matter if he is still physically present…

          • special siren

            Definitely. Klopp looked pissed. I’ll get he doesn’t trust Phil anymore.

          • gegenpressing

            If he could bin Sakho for what he did, Phil had better be praying that he gets his move…

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            bloody hell. I don’t know what to think!
            But if I was honest, I don’t think couts is actually a klopp type player.

            He’ll always welcome talent of course and he’s made good use of him but if you see Keita he’s such a perfect Klopp player and it’s nothing like Couts. Zielinsky too.

          • RedOrDead

            Hope you’re right, but I also get a feeling the deal’s done already & we’re just being given the chance to buy the replacements without the selling club saying you’ve Couts’ money now, the price is £30 mill more??

        • gegenpressing

          If deal had been done, why would he hand in a transfer request?

          • special siren

            Well I think fsg know if they sell him the fans would be really upset so they’ve told him we will sell you but it’s all going to have to go on your toes. The other day fans were saying he must not be sold and turning on fsg. Now he’s put the request in they’ve turned on Phil and say he must go. It’s all PR and FSG are the masters at it.

          • gegenpressing

            Then why come out if a categorical statement that makes them look foolish if they go back on it? Sounds like conspiracy theories to me…

          • special siren

            You’re probably right. Did I mention I’m a paranoid bi polar psycho?

  • RedOrDead

    Poor Brighton…first ever PL game against…ManCity – but who knows, judging by the past 2 days, it could be another upset!!

  • RedOrDead

    Balls! we’re dropping down the table like a bitch – Burnley 1st, Hudds 2nd ha ha – copy & paste that!!

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    great time to go for a swim…..

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    man would be so amazing if chavs stuff up their top 4 hopes early on (and conte getting sacked). we’re going to need all the help we can get I feel!

    • RedOrDead

      Booed off at HT by the wonderfully loyal chavs

    • Quicky Zebra

      are they doing a win epl 1 season screw the next model?

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        seems so. you seen the score?

        • Quicky Zebra

          yup.. Sam vokes > Batshuayi

  • RedOrDead

    The world’s gone mad – even Rooney has scored for the Blueshites

    • nico250gto

      I think rooney was a good addition for the blue noses. A qualitu player, playing for the team he supports. Just like we had SG

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        it’s stoke though, mark wotsisname is done there, they’re not pulling their weight.

        • nico250gto

          Yep. I think its time up for mark hughes

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    tekkers header, wide

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    chavs 1st corner on 44 mins, 0-3 down. at stamford bridge!

  • nico250gto

    I thought our defense was shite of the highest order….

  • RedOrDead

    3 top tier teams showing how fucking awful defences can be – step forward Arsenal, Chelsea & Liverpool

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    haha, chavs have no idea what’s going on

  • Saravana Kumar

    Wuhooooo

  • RedOrDead

    Wow – 3-0 Burnley

    At least we won’t be the headline news now – phew!!

    • Quicky Zebra

      Edwards… send that 75M to Soton now!!!

  • Quicky Zebra

    Hopefully this doesnt mean chelsea starts bidding for VVD

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      would be amazing to see chavs melt down

    • RedOrDead

      Good point – just hope VVD remains intent on LFC only (but he is a footballer & we know how loyalty is these days)

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    great goal from burnley

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    haha burnley 2-0 up against chavs

  • Quicky Zebra

    Burnley… Wow

  • RedOrDead

    Chavs without Hazard & Costa…very ordinary…these were the Champions last season by a country mile…doing a Leicester perhaps?

    Burnley 2-0 up

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      haha, hope they have a meltdown. they’re not happy with costa being sidelined

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      or doing a Chelsea. remember they won the title and then immediately shit the bed the next season?

      • RedOrDead

        Good point, but wasn’t that was all about Moaninho though?

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    oh look Zaha goes over to try and get a pen. somethings never change.

  • Saravana Kumar

    Guess both bought the glasses from the same place….It’s like buy 1 free 1….

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    Koeman doing what I thought he would do at palace, try and put a football education in place, we’ll see if he just gets spanked or if they can adopt it. I’m not holding my breath for them.

  • RedOrDead

    Hudds are top of the EPL – we are now 4th (deja vu)

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      WE ARE ARSENAL!

  • Saravana Kumar

    Panic buy by CP… sakho for 50m

  • RedOrDead

    Ha – Conte in his tracksuit reminds me of the 80s

    • Drewster

      Vicky Pollard look

  • RedOrDead

    Hudds go 1-0 up

    • Quicky Zebra

      Just went 2 up

      • RedOrDead

        Wow – maybe we got the wrong German!! Only kidding…really

        • Quicky Zebra

          Huddersfield are really up for it..

        • nico250gto

          Well, not totally wrong. He was part of klopps backroom team. What if wagner is the missing link?!!

          • RedOrDead

            Fucking hell, I was only joking, but you have made a brilliant point there!!

  • Quicky Zebra

    huddersfield 2 up!! Flying now

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    so we’re not the only disasters out there. Arse conceded 3, chavs down to 10 and a goal down!!!

    • anonymous98345

      Vokes is currently on pace for a massive season, a goal every 24 minutes

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    haha, burnely go ahead against chavs., great goal corner in the header, keeper can’t reach it.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      sorry not a header, a whiffed shot , late spot by the keeper

  • RedOrDead

    Hoo-hoo – Burnley lead the chavs

  • WATFORD,take that you blue scums

  • RedOrDead

    Hey, at least we’re 2nd in the table – haha

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      poor points to lose. those are the ones that cost you top 4.

      • RedOrDead

        I know mate – just trying to console myself with the piss poor start

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          most teams won’t be quite that physical. although we’ll get nothing against leicester if we play like that. horrible midfield performance.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            I mean leicester type teams

          • RedOrDead

            I don’t know mate – Burnley, Stoke, Leic, Palace, Soton, Everton, West Ham – all physical teams

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            very true, but watford do take it to another level and they’re huge. most of the others are often more patient and like parked buses a bit more.

            we struggle when teams are in our face cos we can’t get a rhythm going so we do better when they tire. But in the meantime we don’t do well with that physicality.
            You can imagine the drills Watford go through all week.

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    chavs now back to a back 3 with christensen come on. Conte doesn’t trust them with a back 4, and rightly so

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    chavs now have a back 4 with cahill sent off for studs up challenge. they will be hopeless as a back 4.

    Fabregas now yellow, 2nd yellow plus a red for them so far.

  • RedOrDead

    Ooo, straight red for Cahill

    • I forgot about that game

      • RedOrDead

        The CFC bench looks like our did last season

        • 3 cards for Chelski already

  • special siren

    Did klopp just say that the lads weren’t ready. Well what have you been doing in pre season?

    • nico250gto

      Really?

      • special siren

        I’m sure that’s what he said but wasn’t 100 per cent.

        • Jurgen’s English is actually getting worse

        • nico250gto

          Oh dear! I hope not…

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      they didn’t look ready in the 1st half.

      it has been a bit of a disjointed pre-season, feels that way

      • special siren

        Oh they didn’t look ready, ok.

    • anonymous98345

      excuses are starting early…

    • RedOrDead

      I hope he didn’t, because that contradicts another recent interview where he said they are totally prepared for Watford

  • anonymous98345

    Glad to see goals from all of the front 3

  • anonymous98345

    First half was at training pace, half the team was to blame for decoure’s goal

  • anonymous98345

    Piss poor header by wijnaldum and his finishing at the end was awful too

  • anonymous98345

    Great lung busting run by emre can down the left side

  • anonymous98345

    We still have the same problems as last season

  • anonymous98345

    For some on this forum criticizing our defending is asking for perfection

    • Jason Patel

      Uh no, just don’t stand like fucking statues at set pieces!

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      need to ask midfielders to do their job.

      • anonymous98345

        I like Henderson but he switched off on decoure’s goal.

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          our MFs are almost always the problem when we concede especially from set pieces.

          • anonymous98345

            But that goal was from open play

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            where TAA hits the ball against Matip?

          • anonymous98345

            Yeah that one, but it was all fucked up before that. Mane and Henderson were watching, Moreno lost out in a bad challenge and cleverly made us look terrible. Who wasn’t to blame on that goal?

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            yeah, but more experience and TAA doesn’t wack it against his team mate. That’s a problem with playing youngsters, they will make these errors.

          • anonymous98345

            Sorry I don’t accept that, you can’t just look at the very last whack at the ball and ignore all the buildup, we were exposed as a team on that one. It is a cop out to blame Arnold at all. Sorry not buying that argument

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            not just blaming him but you can’t assume the ball won’t get into the box. at some point the back line has to do its job.

          • anonymous98345

            so your blaming our midfielders on set pieces but not on open play? Sorry makes no sense. I guess I will agree to disagree on this

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            so the ball will never get into the box?

          • anonymous98345

            Do you like the zonal marking? I know it gets discussed every year and it does depend on the players as well as the system. Arsenal use the same system and they were awful at set pieces yesterday. I think I prefer a mixture – especially man marking the other team’s best aerial threat

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            the MFs have to stay with the runners that’s all. we never do!

    • nico250gto

      Really? Asking a team to defend properly is asking for perfection?!

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        he’s criticising some posters

      • anonymous98345

        According to some, won’t name names but every time I point out the poor defending I get told that. It is bullshit.

        • nico250gto

          Apologies for misinterpreting your post. As for those posters, a team wont win a league trophy unless it can properly defend.

          • anonymous98345

            No worries. It is bloody frustrating watching us concede the same way so often for years.

          • nico250gto

            My blood boils up when i see the defensive issues over and over again. It is like we are on loop. No matter who comes in, manager and/or players, one thing never changes, our pesky defending

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            don’t forget, arse conceded 3, chavs are behind right now……
            palace 2 down to Huddersfield

    • Quicky Zebra

      If we concede a goal from a corner from a perfect delivery and a bullet corner.. I understand.. but if we keep failing to clear the first ball that’s criminal

      • anonymous98345

        Absolutely

  • RedNeve

    Sad fact is, this team is so reliant on Couts.

    • Quicky Zebra

      we actually could do w a defensive coach

    • Jason Patel

      No attacking wise we were pretty good.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      plenty of salah chances, hopefully he takes some of them

    • RedOrDead

      Our front 3 each scored a goal without Couts, but I get what you’re saying – having in the MF is better than not having him there.

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        it’s lallana that makes the MF difference. Him and hendo keep it under wraps with their work. That allows couts or someone else some freedom.

        • RedOrDead

          Just wrote something similar – great minds & all that…

          • Drewster

            Fools seldom differ….

      • RedNeve

        Yes mate. The dynamic of our game is improved when he plays. Others improve around him.

  • Pako Ayestarán as a defensive coach.He is a free agent

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      doesn’t stop Gini doing that stooping header thing and not clearing the ball.

      but overall the physicality upset us and we didn’t control the midfield otherwise we are more comfortable and don’t make the mistakes. Watford made it a ragged game and got a point for doing that.

      • Jason Patel

        Gini was pretty shite to be fair

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          not sure how you get that MF to control the game. Hendo wants to hit long balls, gini wants to pass it on but seemed to disappear, Can wants to run with the ball.

          You need each player to beable to do each one or at least 2 of them. The shuttlers are really important and they didn’t seem to shuttle! overpowered in mf.

          • Jason Patel

            It’s amazing how good that midfield was last year when you swap Can for Lallana

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            yep. not sure why cos lally can be a headless chicken but it means one other MF can focus on creativity or something cos between hendo + Lallana there’s a ton of work being done.
            Watford outnumbered us in MF too though.

          • RedOrDead

            Benefit of having Lallana is that he starts the team press so well suffocating the opposition into making a mistake – granted he’s been woeful pre-season, but a Couts-Can-Lallana MF is the one for me.

      • yeah, but we don’t look good when opponents take corners, specialists could drill the defense to be more organised

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          to be honest, we don’t have Watford size players running at out defence in training!

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    salah had some chances today, shame he couldn’t take them and put the game to bed but the fucking linesman robbed us at the end there. so clear it was offside the cunt.

    • Jason Patel

      Yeah you’d think one of them would catch it!

    • we need to get use to it, says my Roma fan friend.

  • Ian96

    Have you heard Hendo’s interview? He will take the positives. Good for you knob head, now stop conceding stupid goals There’s my positive, ya prick.

    • RedOrDead

      1st game of the season playing Watthefuckford, concede 3 sloppy goals, conceded the MF to them…there’s only so much the attackers can do (& they did by each scoring a goal) – what positives can the Captain of our club yield from that – I’d rather he just said we fucked that up big-style

    • nico250gto

      The positive is that next time i’m gonna do something else instead of watching my team play and risk my heart having a heart attack or throw the telly from the window

      • Ian96

        That’s usually my line lol.

  • Delhi Belhi

    Serious questions need to be asked of Klopp if he cant improve defensive record especially on set pieces this season. Disgrace if we dont sign a cb.

    • Jason Patel

      Yup FSG should call his office and ask what the fuck?

    • OldFlaky

      One CB wont do a diddly squat, the whole them must defend.

    • Ian96

      It ain’t so much the cb it’s how we set up the defence for dead ball play.

      • Jason Patel

        Agreed. I’ve no idea what we’re doing at set pieces!

  • RedOrDead

    I read this several times today when the teamsheet was announced – having Can, Gini & Hendo in defence may not yield the guile in MF we need, but they are probably in to protect the back 4 as our attacking intent makes us susceptible at the back – mmmm

    • Jason Patel

      Haha

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      haha, protection comes from dominating the mf, unless you put everyone behind the ball

      • Ian96

        Put a condom on them, no, two condoms, that’s the ultimate protection, not sure how it would work in a football match though.
        But yeah mate, those midfielders lost us the 3 points, oh, also the pathetic defending.
        Same old shite.

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          hate that old fashioned english physical game. but you have to beable to deal with it. It’s why mou buys big fuckers

          • Ian96

            Bang on the money mate.

      • RedOrDead

        The past 3 managers have been unable to sort our defence out – maybe Pep is onto something by buying a whole new back-line??

    • OldFlaky

      You where right this time, hope the mf get stable shortly…

      • RedOrDead

        Just shows why Klopp has a hardon for NabyK (or even Arturo Vidal) – that’s the type of MF we need to lead the line, but losing Couts will be disastrous unless we can replace him with a Hazard or even Mahrez type.

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          rumour is mahrez

          • RedOrDead

            That’s not a bad rumour – but if we don’t improve our standing in Europe, he’ll be handing in a transfer request too

  • Jason Patel

    Just saw the first goal again, why the fuck doesn’t Matip jump? He’s been dog shit all summer!

    • Quicky Zebra

      He is too tall that he feels that he doesnt need to jump?

  • OldFlaky

    Change of attention, linux mint is updated to firefox 55…what else is there to look forward to today?

  • Quicky Zebra

    If only this team had the attacking verve of Klopp and defensive astuteness of Rafa’s

    • nico250gto

      The thing is klopps doesnt seem to know how to setup a good defense. 3 yrs almost now….

      • OldFlaky

        Can they join up?

        • Quicky Zebra

          Like american football? Attacking and Defensive coach? “Remember the Titans” came to mind.

          • OldFlaky

            Klopp got his brain and eyes, but where is his balls?

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        so much of it is set pieces. If a defender won’t jump or follow the runner or does a stupid stooping header that doesn’t clear the ball.
        Bobby whiffs the clearance vs palace last season.

        this isn’t really Klopp. It’s the players.

        • Quicky Zebra

          What if we get VVD in and we still defend like 12 year olds for corners?

          • Jason Patel

            If they’re instructed to stand like statues as they appear to be, VVD will add nothing

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            we used to put gerrard on the front post because he would attack everything that came near him, 99.9% of the time – it was in his nature. we don’t have a reliable person at the mo.

            VVD may help in some situations, but players have to want to fight, midfielders like can, bobby & gini have to stay with their man and force them off the ball. they are flaky AF in the box. A DM is likely to have the right attitude, VVD can’t control the MFs, they’re just lazy defensively.

          • Jason Patel

            Lucas was great end of last season at set pieces 😁

        • nico250gto

          Well the message is not being received by the players or he hasnt got the players we neee…ultimately it also falls under klopps responsibility

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            I think if you get run ragged by a physical team and don’t control the game, then these mistakes come along cos you can’t stay composed.

          • Jason Patel

            We were pretty composed in second half till the last 5 mins or so.

          • nico250gto

            The last corner was easy to defend. No defender on the post to clear. Those are cleary defensive error setups. Its 3 yrs now with klopp but still the same errors. If we want to be tops, defending must take a priority.

    • Pako Ayestarán is a free agent,sign him as a defensive coach

      • Quicky Zebra

        I hope Klopp is able to sort this out defensively at set-pieces or we are going to need to score 5 goals every game to win.

        • no he cannot by himself.he was bad defensively at Dortmund too, but his front line always won matches for him.if we would be mre defensive,then we would score far less goals, at least I see it this way.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            his defence was imperious when they won the titles. he started with 19 yr old CBs, and after 3 years playing together they were superb.

          • yes,but key is playing together…Dortmund did conceede quite a lot, as I recall

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            well, if you start with 19 yr olds then it’s not really surprising. but they were fantastic after a while. Not so sure in his later years though.

          • well later Bayern harrased their team like we did with Southampton,so obviously they struggled and Klopp was finished.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            haha true.
            I think they started getting injured a lot so then the team changes a fair bit.

            that last season (1st half) was a perfect storm though. 2nd half of the season they went from bottom to euro places, so it wasn’t a total disaster.

  • Xnxc

    look at the bright side, we still create goal (3) without phil…

    ok i’m panic, lets do the panic buy

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    Hendo was absolute dog shit today. Complete passenger in the midfield.

    • Saravana Kumar

      He was better in 2nd half….
      There was only 1 passenger throughout the match….the no away score man

      • Kloppmeister

        Yeah he was absolutely horrible, invisible

    • Delhi Belhi

      gini worse. So overrated. Hardly ever see fans criticising him

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        not really his fault. he’s not a chaos game man. if we control the midfield he’s excellent as part of it, but he can’t do it on his own.

        • Jason Patel

          That’s not good enough

        • Delhi Belhi

          Pathetic mentality to go with it. Almost cost a goal with a suicide back header and then defended that corner like a pussy. Saw some vidal links the other day, man we so need him rn

    • gegenpressing

      We still need an elite midfielder…none of the guys we have equipped to run a midfield

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        hendo plus lally can do it. don’t know why the others can’t.

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    1 game played
    2 points dropped
    3 goals conceded
    4 useless defenders
    5 more seasons of same shit

    • Quicky Zebra

      Wouldnt it be great if we had 2 months to bring in some defensive upgrades? Oh wait…

      • Kylian Mmmbopp

        We have had 20 months and 20 years to fix that

    • OldFlaky

      Makes us Sir Shit Alot…

  • Saravana Kumar

    If this is how matip and lovren gonna.play throughout the season… then bring VVD… change to 3 at back….
    But doubt about Lovren….

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      we DON’T have the CBs for a back 3, it would be a disaster.

      • Saravana Kumar

        It’s already….

  • angelmaker72

    Today’s match report: 💩💩💩 and more 💩

    • OldFlaky

      Thanks, we make our own shit, now we have to sleep in it!

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        yep

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    Gomez is so not ready for the PL. he needs a good loan season. or at least half a season. fucking spend some money and buy a CB Klopp

    • angelmaker72

      Don’t understand why he came on.

    • Drewster

      Not sure about that, it’s always difficult to get up to game pace immediately and it was fast today

      • gegenpressing

        Yeah.. that’s why most managers don’t make defensive subs in the last minutes without an injury

    • Quicky Zebra

      He was struggling.. TAA had the right side under wraps.. should have given Solanke or Grujic some minutes

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        not really. you want TAA in the box when they are showering us with balls in the last 10mins?

  • OldFlaky

    Thank you LFC, bringing me back to earth, everything stays the same…

  • Saravana Kumar

    That clearance by gini… what a joke

  • michi

    Must say Gomez was also a culprit along with Gini for last goal for a needless foul and giving a free kick.. also our ball retention was pathetic last 10 min.. Well, Anfield next..

    • Jason Patel

      Yeah but not Gomez’s fault. Shouldn’t have been on the pitch. This one’s on Klopp.

  • Dennis Chong

    We go to Hoffenheim as underdogs….. sigh…..

  • Kloppmeister

    We got what we deserved. What a shitty performance overall. Defence suspect as last season, bad defending of set pieces and lack of physicality.

    • Jason Patel

      The front 3 deserved better

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        front 3 got so little support in the first half. better midfield and they comfortably terrorise the defence all game.

        • Jason Patel

          Can understand why we want Keita. Can and Gini lack dynamism

          • Kloppmeister

            Yeah, he’ll be a perfect mix of can and Gini

      • Kloppmeister

        Yeah, gotta feel bad cause they did take the game to watford and put us in front only for the defence to piss it away

  • Jason Patel

    Think Klopp should’ve stuck to his first 11. The subs made us weaker

    • Squizzums

      Tired legs though. If you can’t rely on fresh legs from the go, and develop the habit, especially with a thin squad, then the team will fall apart by Boxing Day.

      • Jason Patel

        Not in this game though

        • Squizzums

          No one knows how the subs are going to perform until they come on.

          • Jason Patel

            You could see it was a very difficult game and took the first 11 time to get up to speed. Bring on a lackadaisical Origi, slow Milly and young Gomez and get punished.

          • Squizzums

            Bit of hindsight there. Plus with all the sports medicine and GPS vests they know how many minutes they want to give certain players so as not to tempt injury. Every man needs to pull his weight when called upon.

          • Jason Patel

            No if you look at my comments I wasn’t in favour of subs. Not a good bench today.

          • Squizzums

            Until we bring in more players to deepen the squad, other than a Woodburn here or a Kent there, this is the bench we have.

          • Jason Patel

            Coutinho, Lallana, Clyne, Studge injured for first game is not great!

          • Squizzums

            That’s part of my point though–if we don’t regularly sub players on then Mane, Salah, Firmino et al will get exhausted and potentially injured.

          • Jason Patel

            That’s fine just maybe not when the game was so physical and finely balanced and you don’t have your best bench. Also if you need to make subs, how about your players who’re playing shite, rather than the ones doing well?

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            I thnk he was going for height for balls coming in late.

          • Jason Patel

            Well if he was then he fucked it up didn’t he? Origi is probably the least aggressive player in the squad. Lucas was great in the air despite his height. Matip is pretty shite in the air too despite I think being the tallest in the squad.

          • Squizzums

            Because this is the first game of the season, and we held a lead, and you’ll need your best players toward the end of the season. Also, Hoffenheim is less than 3 days away, and I’m sure you’d like Firmino (who probably knows that team better than anyone), Salah and TAA (since we’re thin at RB) to have a full match then.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            bobby won’t know this team at all, it’s this new young coach that’s totally changed them

          • Squizzums

            Has he replaced the entire squad then?

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            don’t know enough about them to be honest, but they got to 4th which is unheard of so can’t imagine it was the same outfit as before. Voland went too I believe.

          • Squizzums

            Knowing the tendencies of at least 1 or 2 starters is an advantage ahead of a match when most players don’t know each other. You can change philosophies and tactics, but players still play a certain way–maybe someone has quick feet, a good first touch, good pace, is dangerous in the tackle, etc.

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            I’ll take the first 2, but I wouldn’t bring gomez on. However he provides the height that TAA doesn’t for the high balls that are going to come in.

            that said, the last goal was a joke – the offside is so clear and the linesman is right there.

  • RedOrDead

    Do we need any more reasons, examples and evidence that our defence needs fucking sorting out. Always against the ‘lower’ sides – nothing learnt over the summer – we’ll probably smash the top 6 again, but won’t outscore opposition always when we concede such sloppy goals.

    Anyways, CL qualification next…pls pls get us through that

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    What did Origi do in that 25 mins?
    Solanke for me every week

    • Squizzums

      A better question would be to ask what Gomez did when he came on.

    • RedOrDead

      Exactly…substitution error for me

    • OldFlaky

      Being on the pitch and could say he turned up for work, but doing nothing…

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      he’s there for phsicality. can’t put players like woodburn on in these.

  • michi

    what a huge mistake from Gini!! 🙁

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      not really. can’t help if the ball is deflected

      • michi

        really?? I feel he should have directed the ball back up in the air.. his header was pretty low and hence took the deflection.. and seriously we are always so unlucky with these deflections.. even 2nd goal..

  • Quicky Zebra

    If this draw triggers a new defender.. then so be it.. but we cant defend like this in champs league

    • Jason Patel

      We probably can. Problems are pl specific

    • Drewster

      Migs should have done better with the first and the third, but yes he should be our No 1. He’s crap and has been for four years

      • Quicky Zebra

        Would Karius or Ward have done better? We still suck at set-pieces and teams know this

        • Drewster

          We won’t know unless we give them a proper chance. He’s had four years, enough already. He should be third choice

      • herrdoktorprofessor

        not on the third he had an offside player all over him.

        • gegenpressing

          Why didn’t the refs call that? Maybe he could’ve been more aggressive with the player?

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            cos got to keep the PL entertaining.

        • Drewster

          Disagree barge through the guy and fall over like you have been shot and the keeper will win the foul every time

  • guys look at the bright side, 3 weeks more to strenghten our squad.oh yeah, get the fucking defensive coach

    • Redandyouknowsit

      That would probably be the best signing we could make.

      • Pako Ayestarán is a free agent, we all know how defensively sound we were with him and Rafa aboard

        • Redandyouknowsit

          Good call that.

  • Ben should have started instead of gini

    • Drewster

      That’s never gonna happen

      • He got better dribbling skills than winja r can

        • Drewster

          And all three have better dribbling skills than Hendo. Still Klopp will not start Ben unless it’s a league cup game

  • OldFlaky

    Fuck that, I’m getting pissed!

  • Ah well…

  • Saravana Kumar

    Fuck the chances he had….. he should not play away matches anymore….

  • Ian96

    Same old defensive frailties, ya win jack shite with a shite defence

    • Saravana Kumar

      Same.shit

    • gegenpressing

      Amazing how we find different ways to do the same thing over and over

      • Ian96

        I know. I believe they watch ground hog day far too often

  • Jason Patel

    Yup we’re still not gonna get a title challenge. Haven’t learnt lessons on set pieces especially.

  • Shaun Frost

    Winjaldum should never start away games from now on. Terrible in attack and absolutely woeful on defence for their third.

    • Ian96

      He shouldn’t start any game, he is shite.

  • Quicky Zebra

    Thought we didnt deserve the win with the defence being a shambles..

  • Pls make VVD the most expensive defender.

    • Aamir Bakshi

      Wont solve our defensive organization. This shit defense has more to do with Strategy and set-up rather than personnel.

      • Jason Patel

        Agreed. Teams with shit defenders defend better

  • Gini could have made amend there.

    • gegenpressing

      We had so many chances at 2-3

    • Saravana Kumar

      Should never play away matches….

  • Fuck this shit.. I’m off to gym

  • Saravana Kumar

    AnotherAnother chance….

  • Jason Patel

    Kick the fucking ball Gini you tart!

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      yeah, hate those stooping headers

      • Jason Patel

        Nah meant the shot at the end

  • Terrible. Terrible. We had chances to end this. But the start was simply not good enough.

    Well 1 is better than 0 and other teams will drop all points at Vicarage.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      they’re more hyped for the 1st game

    • Kloppmeister

      That’s just some shit you’re telling yourself to feel better. Don’t blame ya

    • Drewster

      Sorry, we were robbed there, Gomes should’ve been sent off and that goal was offsides

  • Yet another ref fucking us like we are not capable enough to do it ourself

  • Stan Dinaround

    start as you mean to go on!

  • Ian96

    A game we really didn’t deserve to win. Is the season over soon?
    Fucking shite.

    • gegenpressing

      All they did was kill us on set pieces

      • herrdoktorprofessor

        like everyone else has fucked us. for how many years now?

        • Ian96

          Spot on. One would think we have learned, but we haven’t

        • Ian96

          What’s new? Don’t you think it’s time to address it?

      • Ian96

        Exactly, same old same old shite.

    • Drewster

      Bullshit Ian, we deserved it, they didn’t deserve a draw

      • Ian96

        No bullshit, we were shite, end of.

        • Drewster

          We weren’t great granted, but we deserved the win, didn’t deserve the offside goal being given at the end

          • Ian96

            We didn’t deserve to win. Wearing tinted glasses his nice, but it doesn’t detract from the fact they bullied us off the park coz we have no steel. We need to improve and fast.
            We were mostly pathetic today, with the odd moment of class, but there is the point. The odd moment of class might win a game but it sure has hell won’t win you the league.

          • Jason Patel

            I don’t agree. I think we started poorly, but got into the game. Klopp cocked up the subs and we lost control allowing them to equalise. Plus stand like statues at set pieces.

          • Ian96

            Mate, we did nothing to justify winning. Yes their last goal was offside, but do you honestly believe we did enough to win? We were poor, very poor.

          • Jason Patel

            We scored 3 goals. At least their last one was offside.

          • Drewster

            Sorry for being rude mate, so pissed off at the shocking linesman and the poor defence. Plus Coutinho fucking us in the eye before the first game of the season

          • Ian96

            You were not rude my great friend, you are merely showing your passion.
            Couts can do one, for £150 mil. Let’s see if Barca want basement bargains or are serious? They didn’t want him until Neymar fucked off to France.
            If they are serious then let’s see some serious money.

  • gegenpressing

    We were robbed there

    • Saravana Kumar

      We allowed them….

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    so clearly offside

  • Live and learn boss.
    Live and learn.

    • Stan Dinaround

      Live, not sure he will learn.. Same old mistakes…

  • Shaun Frost

    Why no VARS ??
    Bundesliga is using it!
    Fucking backward savages…

  • RedOrDead

    My opinion – poor timing of subs & personnel coming on – this was primes for Solanke up front to keep the Watthefuckford defence occupied

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      nothing to do with the sub

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        he did give away the Fk

      • RedOrDead

        I beg to disagree, but respect your opinion

  • Drewster

    But Migs has reverted to type

  • Aamir Bakshi

    I ll blame the Gomez substitution for this….TAA was doing fine at RB why take off a set defender? Fuck man. Klopp really needs to get his head in the right place defensive wise.

    • Quicky Zebra

      Came on.. gave away the foul.. defence gone all wobbly

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      it came fro the left

    • michi

      am guess must be due to more height in the box.. clearly back fired but change is understandable.

  • Free header fuck

    • Squizzums

      Can had the penalty spot well covered though.

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    offside clearly

    • Jason Patel

      Plus possibly fouled migs

  • Gini ffs

  • Saravana Kumar

    Stupid autocorrect

  • Jason Patel

    Offside ffs

  • Ian96

    I could see that coming.

  • Quicky Zebra

    So subbing on Gomez gave that chance.. nice

  • Drewster

    Offside?

  • WANKED.

  • Shaun Frost

    Moreno…great clearance too!

  • Jason Patel

    Lucky fucking bastards

  • Sigh

  • RedOrDead

    we are a bunch of fucking wankers

  • Vivek Bharos

    fuck

  • SQUEAKY BUMMMMMMSIES

  • Saravana Kumar

    fuck gini wasting that chance…

  • RedOrDead

    Fucking save Migs

  • Dennis Chong

    Lord Migs saves the day…..

  • Quicky Zebra

    Gomez giving away the freekick

  • Jason Patel

    Fuck fuck fuck

  • Jason Patel

    Fuck 5 mins why!?

    • Squizzums

      When the Watford player had to have his thigh bandaged.

  • Saravana Kumar

    Why TAA….

    • Shaun Frost

      Was on a yellow…

      • Saravana Kumar

        Ahhh

    • Hafidz

      invaluable asset right now

  • RedOrDead

    Nice to see Gomez on – he’s had a tough few years

  • Quicky Zebra

    What can Grujic do to get some minutes?

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    Gomez, more height

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    good day from TAA

  • Joe Gomez!

    • Squizzums

      Less beach muscles = more time on the pitch!

  • RedOrDead

    Fair-play to Can, he’s had a fucking storming 2nd half

    • Jason Patel

      Yeah he’s a fighter when fired up

  • OldFlaky

    Dont understand, timewasting by Migs, but not by Trashford in first half, fucking referring!

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    5 extra minutes

    • Coz of that Watford injury I imagine

      • herrdoktorprofessor

        which one?

  • I appreciate this from Migs actually

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    that’s funny, migs isn’t timewasting, it’s what he does!

  • Saravana Kumar

    Migs getting a yellow finally…learned some bad habits….

  • Shaun Frost

    Migs … you dummy!

  • Dennis Chong

    Too early for timewaste Migsy……

    • Ian96

      Exactly

    • Still, every minute adds up. Haha

      • Ian96

        20 seconds time wasting adds 5 minutes to the game, apparently

  • Squizzums

    Milner being played out of position. 😂

  • gegenpressing

    Away game…Wijnaldum won’t score

    • Redandyouknowsit

      So replace him with Grujic, what do you reckon?

      • Drewster

        Yup

  • Dennis Chong

    Gini continues his dont-score-away record….

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      boro

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      if we move the opposition around as we can and play fast thro midfield then he’s excellent , always well positioned always keeps the ball moving.

      this kind of chaotic game isn’t his except for his strength.

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    our new midfielder makes his debut

  • RedOrDead

    Ohh Gini – hit the fucking target man!!

  • Saravana Kumar

    Omg….giniiiiiii

  • RedNeve

    Who scored the 3rd please fellas?

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      Mo

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      salah , poacher

      • RedNeve

        Thank you.

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    oh gini

  • Ian96

    What a pathetic shot from Gini.

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    just get the 3 fucking points boys

  • RedOrDead

    Milner for Salah coming up??

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    well done moreno

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    neeeeaaaarlly

    • Dennis Chong

      Loved that move though

  • OldFlaky

    Fucking streams, here is a new one:
    http://buffstream.com/watch/soccer.php

  • Squizzums

    Watford don’t look like they’ve had triple training sessions in the pre-season.

    • Jason Patel

      They spunked their load too early

  • Jason Patel

    Am I the only one who loves Lovren?

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      probably

      • Jason Patel

        No!😫

    • RedOrDead

      Yes 🙂

    • Love’s a strong word but I don’t dislike him.

    • Squizzums

      Usually single-handedly costs us 6 goals per season due to either poor positioning or poor tackling.

      • Jason Patel

        He challenges for everything though, plus only 2 mistakes last year. Everyone sucks off Matip but he hides

        • Squizzums

          Didn’t say Matip is without fault, but Lovren is a clear liability at least half a dozen times a season.

  • gegenpressing

    Origi…good enough

    • RedOrDead

      No

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  • RedOrDead

    Origi for Firms…booo

  • Dennis Chong

    Why Divvy?

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      height?

    • Quicky Zebra

      chasing lost cause?

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      height, defending

  • RedOrDead

    They’re playing 3 upfront now against our back 4

  • RedOrDead

    Watthefuckford maybe down to 10 now – no subs left?

    • Shaun Frost

      Thats how they should be referred to on these boards forever!😂

  • gegenpressing

    Solanke on for Firmino should happen

    • RedOrDead

      Unfortunately its Origi

      • gegenpressing

        Not unfortunately…good enough

        • RedOrDead

          I don’t feel it mate, but I respect your opinion

    • Drewster

      He looks a lot like Origi

  • Quicky Zebra

    some subs kloppo?

  • our wingers are electric now

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      they’ve tired a bit so the natural pace helps us. we need to not over do it though. make those chances count so we can relax

      • my friend is Roma supporter, he told me that Salah is not a very good finisher

  • Saravana Kumar

    TAA…Been massive so far

    • Jason Patel

      Yes more confidence than the seniors

    • Shaun Frost

      Moreno too!

  • Ian96

    Salah should have at least got that on target

    • gegenpressing

      Still getting up to speed…will score loads

      • Jason Patel

        Hopefully not another Rosenthal/Macca!

        • Ian96

          With ya there mate

    • Drewster

      I can count 3 like that today and he has a goal to his name

      • gegenpressing

        And an assist…got the pen

        • Drewster

          True, so carry on then

      • Ian96

        Yep mate, his composure is not the best at this time. Hopefully it will improve through the season

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          that’s the PL adjustment. this will be some awakening for him

          • Ian96

            Very awakening

    • Kloppmeister

      But the threat of his pace is tantalising

      • Ian96

        It is mate.

  • gegenpressing

    Still tense…will appreciate that 4th goal guys

  • RedOrDead

    We’re looking tired now – I would sub & secure the win

    • Jason Patel

      Tough for whoever comes in

      • Grujic for Hendo

        • Jason Patel

          No

  • Bit too casual from Matip

    • Jason Patel

      Haha

  • Redblooded Male

    Moreno’s been alright IMO.

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    moreno gives that foul away 11 times out of 10, and then twice more

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    Hendo on a milk carton.

  • Dennis Chong

    Lov you’re such a bad boy……

  • Jeebus mino

  • Squizzums

    I dearly hope Momo says healthy. He looks a 20 goal scorer.

  • gegenpressing

    We are going to score quite a few set pieces with TAA taking them

  • Klopp held on to the ball there! HAHAHAHAHA

  • Saravana Kumar

    Guess each one of then were given dildo during half.time….and it’s helping….

    • Shaun Frost

      Is it still in?!

      • Saravana Kumar

        Till the battery dies….

        • Ouch!

          • Saravana Kumar

            Too bad…should have played well in.the first half

  • OldFlaky
    • Hafidz

      i use this too

      • OldFlaky

        Picture good, but does it buffer sometimes for you?

    • thanks,mine was minute behind

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        go to soccerstreams on the subreddit and see the post for the game, they have lots of choices.

  • Squizzums

    What should be done with young Ward this season?

  • Jason Patel

    Not sure we should make a sub given how long it took the lads to get in physically

  • RedOrDead

    Gotta say…Moreno’s done well all round today so far…credit where its due

  • Lov and Matip are on fire

    • Jason Patel

      Was that why we struggled first half? 😉

  • Squizzums

    Just a short 20 mins before Klopp’s first sub.

  • Zonal again but form Watford

  • Jason Patel

    Whatever Klopp does half time, can he start doing before the game?

    • Nein. We need pressure !

    • Asking Riise to leave?

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      getting your ass reamed only works when you’ve had a shit first half

      • Jason Patel

        Maybe they like it?

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    migs was interfered with for their first goal (nearly saved it too), we don’t do that.

  • Wow. Lov massive header.

  • Ian96

    C’mon Liverpool

  • RedOrDead

    We’re finally winning corners!!!

  • Shaun Frost

    TAA’s delivery is awesome!

  • Dennis Chong

    Owwwwwww….

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    TAA, our new set piece taker?

  • nico250gto

    Can what a beast

  • Kloppmeister

    Wow what a run by can. Taking that ball down while running is not easy

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    nice header firmino

  • RedOrDead

    That was sublime Can…sublime

  • RedOrDead

    Would anyone make a sub change now??

    • Shaun Frost

      No Lucas anymore, so no!

    • Yes. Solanke or Milly.

  • Matip sorted himself, good lad.Now we know who got thrashed at halftime

  • Jason Patel

    TAA embarrassing his senior defensive colleagues

    • Now you’ve done it!

      • Jason Patel

        Slapping my balls on the table Klopp style

  • Squizzums

    No one almost scores as many headers as Matip almost scores.

    • Jason Patel

      Haha

  • great header Matip, he remembered he can actually jump.more of the same please

    • Drewster

      Wasn’t him, almost an own goal

      • oh, well I did drink a few…needed it after that horrible halftime

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    has to be a yellow after TAA
    maybe not

  • nico250gto

    Thats a yellow

  • Tapas??? No!

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    ooooh, great corner, great header

  • Quicky Zebra

    gd attempt moreno

  • Drewster

    Shit that was close

  • Keep going Moreno you Spanish tapas

    • Dennis Chong

      Spanish Cafu c’mon

  • Kloppmeister

    What a shot by Moreno

  • gegenpressing

    Salah gets a lot of goals by following stuff up

  • Dennis Chong

    The other Mo almost delivers….

  • Stan Dinaround

    mane looks disinterested!

  • Dennis Chong

    Mino Mane Mo…..

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      ha ha very good.
      but lets get another one

  • Redandyouknowsit

    What’s changed since half time then guys? Apart from the score and a lot more smiling faces.

    • nico250gto

      Riise went for a walk 🙂

      • Redandyouknowsit

        If only that was all that was needed 😉

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    At this rate, we dont need Countinho.

    • whoa easy my friend, 20 minutes ago we all were desperate

      • Kylian Mmmbopp

        The final score. Watch it later. Mind boggling

    • Squizzums

      Shouldn’t need him against Watford.

  • Ahhh Mane. If only

  • Shaun Frost

    No Deeney today?

    • Squizzums

      Out injured. Did you just turn on the match? 😂😂😂

      • Shaun Frost

        Haha…no! Sorry!
        Finally started noticing stuff! 😁

  • TAA learning to be a cunt.
    Journey to the darkside has begun.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      fucking terrible yellow from the ref

      • Hafidz

        name epl ref that isnt terrible

    • Drewster

      Wasn’t a yellow

  • nico250gto

    Thats not a yellow

  • hmm my posts keep disappearing…

    • Into the Dyson!

      • nico250gto

        With blades i guess

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      disqus. refresh your page

      • Ahh that’s better… thought I was going slightly mad…

  • RedOrDead

    Well, if the first 2 PL games are anything to go by, there are going to be a shitload of goals this season

    • Mate you could bring condoms for your stag do tonight,looks like a pretty good evening so far

  • Saravana Kumar

    Almost

  • Shaun Frost

    Do we have Sturridge on the bench?

    • Squizzums

      Injured, so no.

      • Hafidz

        hospital bench you mean

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      no solanke

  • RedOrDead

    My Fantasy Football’s looking much healthier now 🙂

    • Drewster

      Mine too, had all three up front

  • Redblooded Male

    🎶Where is Coutinho, where is Coutinho?🎶

  • Squizzums

    Each man on the forward line bags a goal. Brill.

  • Great long ball by Lovren for Bobby

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      that only took 1 gazillion attempts to get right

      • still counts

      • Hafidz

        lmao you right

      • Drewster

        If at first you don’t succeed….

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          you definitely could be lovren

          • Drewster

            Shhh don’t tell anyone

  • gegenpressing

    Salah to grab second

  • OldFlaky

    Fucking great goal!

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    my god, what a team. I swear being bricked to death would be more pleasant!!

  • NG

    What a come back! One more please 😉

  • Quicky Zebra

    Are we winning because Riise went out for a walk?

    • Most def

    • Drewster

      Probably

    • Jason Patel

      Defo!

    • nico250gto

      Hahaha

    • most def

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      he gave the half time talk from Dublin!!

    • Riiseandshine

      I’m fucking checking back in from my car….they just hate me!. I’m genuinely not watching and they do this…I’m officially out for the season with a jinx injury lads.,,🤕

      • Quicky Zebra

        No.. u keep on walking!! 😀

        • Riiseandshine

          I’m going before I jinx it 👋🏻

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        bad back?

        • Riiseandshine

          Who cares.,I can live with highlights if we win games

  • gegenpressing

    Tear them to shreds

  • SUCK THIS YOU FUCKING BASTARDS!!!!!!

  • Saravana Kumar

    Ok…keep calm…get the 3 points

  • Jason Patel

    Why do they do this to us?

  • man I am sweating…I fucking love this club

  • Quicky Zebra

    get in!!!!!

  • nico250gto

    Salahhhhhhhhhh

  • RedOrDead

    Goal SALAH!!!1

  • yeah time to drink bastards!

  • Redblooded Male

    YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!

  • Jason Patel

    Fucking get in!

  • Ok lads. Haha.
    NO MORE FUCK UPS

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      EVER!

  • RedOrDead

    Can we go on & just fucking win this shit?!!?

  • Come on lads, push on from this…

  • nico250gto

    Just dont let one in now guys as i will break the tv set

  • Saravana Kumar

    Gray is coming in…. annoying

  • Redblooded Male

    Better cross than Clyne EVER did!

  • Shaun Frost

    Firms should be captain!

  • gegenpressing

    Now Salah’s turn to score

  • Kloppmeister

    Yay my captain just scored

  • Yes yes yes

  • RedOrDead

    Fucking YEAH!!!!

  • He must send Gomes off!

    • Quicky Zebra

      isnt it a yellow card at best?

  • Quicky Zebra

    nice!!!

  • Yes yes yes

  • Jason Patel

    Why’s Gomes not off?

    • RedOrDead

      Very good point!

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      going away from the goal

  • RedOrDead

    Penalty!

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    penalty

    • for whom,my stream is minute late

  • Saravana Kumar

    Why everyone look so disinterested….

  • OldFlaky

    Can need to get the fuck out now!

  • special siren

    Bring back sakho and get solanke on ffs

    • Squizzums

      Suarez will sooner play for the Reds again before Sakho does, mate.

      • special siren

        Well when we defend like this and have a defender there who wants to play, I just don’t get it.

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    we’re missing lallana big time, he works like a mother in MF.

    • Jason Patel

      Yup

  • Mane is the only one worthy of the shirt today

  • gegenpressing

    Salah looking most likely

  • Ian96

    What the fuck has happened to Salah? Looked good in pre season, resembles a donkey now.

    • Shaun Frost

      Resembles Jermaine Pennant! A little too much for my liking today…

    • gegenpressing

      Growing into it

      • Ian96

        Agreed

  • Saravana Kumar

    Can is so fucked up

  • nico250gto

    Where are the midfield players?????

  • TAA in for a test with this Richarli guy

  • RedOrDead

    Can we go back 24 hours please & start again???

    • Quicky Zebra

      Like in football manager?

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    solanke would have anticipated that

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    migs has no idea about distribution.

  • Pereyra off,one bugger less he looked lively

  • OldFlaky

    Fucking trashford waisting time…

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    started with a long ball!! against the biggest side in the league!

  • Shaun Frost

    We really, really can’t afford to lose Coutinho this summer!

    • gegenpressing

      Depends on which Coutinho we get back…

    • RedOrDead

      If he doesn’t want to play then what can we do? Same situ as VVD

  • Squizzums

    Is Coutinho:
    a) On the training table receiving treatment for his back
    b) Watching the match
    c) Trying on Neymar’s old Barca kit.

    • RedNeve

      Hahahaha

  • RedOrDead

    Thank fuck I have a stag do this evening

    • OldFlaky

      What the fuck is a stag? Never mind can I join?

      • herrdoktorprofessor

        bachelor party

        • RedOrDead

          Yeah – stag do in the UK

      • RedOrDead

        Friend’s getting married this week & its tradition to get shitfaced before the wedding – its called a stag do in the UK – join us by all means

        • OldFlaky

          Enjoy, didn’t have flighttickets in hand…

    • I hope there is a stripper there, because this is beyond depressing

  • abhishek5agger

    Midfield has been slow, should bring on Solanke for Wijnaldum, and play Firmino as the attacking midfielder.

  • nico250gto

    Solanke should start the 2nd half

  • Jason Patel

    Seriously Klopp, you’re paid millions a year and have done nothing about the defensive weaknesses from last year. Sort it the fuck out!

    • Quicky Zebra

      Klopp gone for VVD or nothing.. Mentions about naming 5 defenders better than the current lot.. seriously klopp

      • herrdoktorprofessor

        but it’s not just the players. they don’t defend as a cohesive unit.

        • Quicky Zebra

          Would employing a defensive coach help?

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        there were plenty of defenders around for the goals

  • OldFlaky

    Moyes in the beIN studio, no wonder this is getting crappier…

  • nico250gto

    Sky italia: defensive errors like lfc and yest Arsenal, are not for teams who are aiming for top spots.

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    Joe, the floating menu pull down is a real pain in the ass, your mouse passes over the top menu accidentally and so the menu pulls down and hovers for a bit before disappearing.
    By that time you’ve accidentally clicked what was under it and you’re onto some other page.

    Please ask them to make the menu pull downs disappear quickly not hover – it’s not cool!!

  • Ian96

    It’s going to be a long hard season. The defence has learned nothing. Pathetic first half.
    Absolutely shite.

    • gegenpressing

      It’s a structural problem… adding one player isn’t likely to change that, is it?

      • herrdoktorprofessor

        yep. they just don’t defend as a cohesive group. no one seems to know what the others are doing

        • gegenpressing

          We seem to concede goals from a succession of bad things happening… several players have a chance to stop it but no one does

    • Squizzums

      We looked flash against Bayern though. 😳

  • Take can off bring ben

    • Squizzums

      Ben who? No one with that name on the bench.

  • OldFlaky

    Think I need a shitload of beer to swallow this shitperformance…I wasn’t waiting the whole summer for this.

    • cheers,I am drinking my third, will need more as it looks so far

      • OldFlaky

        On my third 6-pack, need to get out for more…

        • Ian96

          I had 9 Carling n the fridge, down to 4 now. Gona need to buy some more soon.

    • Ian96

      Exactly mate. Fucking shite, embarrassing in fact.

    • looks like I need to step up

  • Stan Dinaround

    Carbon copy of last season… Didnt even know Wijnaldum was playing.. Can is slow, and we are so delivberately slow its painful.

    • gegenpressing

      Dictating tempo seems to be an on going problem… thought Hendo would help but hasn’t been great so far..that said, spaces starting to open

  • Aamir Bakshi

    Okaka bullying our WHOLE back 4 into submission was the highlight of the first half. We dont have the balls to even go into challenges let alone winning 50/50s. Its so easy to just run at our defense at will coz no one will challenge them.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      that’s why mou bought matic. makes no sense financially but he knows what has to be done

      • Aamir Bakshi

        Mourinho knows how to set-up a defensive team as well on the other hand Klopp defensive organization is average at best. From his Dortmund days as well. But no one will say that coz who wants to hear bad things about klopp eh?

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          lots say it. he’s never bettered 1.1 goals conceded per game I don’t think in his career.

          But if you control the midfield and have a great front 3 you can get away with it somewhat.

          We have no control in this game. we’re bullied in the middle so we’re playing it over the top and it’s not doing any good.

  • First half review: there are no words n dictionary to express how shite we were in that half

  • Jason Patel

    Seems like we’ve learnt little from last year. Set piece = goal. Attacked on left = goal

    • RedNeve

      We may have learned but done fuck all about it! We need to spend money for that and well… we won’t be doing that now will we…. !!!

  • RedOrDead

    Massive 1st half disappointment – bar the sublime Mane goal, we’ve been scared, wasteful, lacking aggression, aerially woeful, defensively inept and a terrible first-touch from most players – surprisingly, none of this is aimed at Moreno!!

  • Aamir Bakshi

    Mane is the only positive from that half. Everything else was just crap! How bad are some of the players man and to think they wear Liverpool jersey.

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      he was crap overall. how many times did he give the ball away cheaply?

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    We played quite well in first half despite all. I rate this team performance 9.5/10

    • Xnxc

      you kidding? only 1 shot on target

      • Kylian Mmmbopp

        I am watching the bayern replay

    • Stan Dinaround

      Ha! You my son, should put that crack pipe down!

  • I just heard that a bunch of red arrow planes have just ditched into the Mersey…

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      I was watching it I thought!

    • OldFlaky

      I tought I heard phtttt!

    • ?????

  • Saravana Kumar

    We have only one player on the field….that’s mane….
    Salah been awful so far…
    Too many jokers ….

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      not blaming salah, this mf is poor and it’s a garbage physical game running us ragged.

  • So heres the thing.

    This is Watford at MAX.
    But we’re couple gears down.

    So, tough words and off we go.

  • nico250gto

    Midfield inexistent

  • Riiseandshine

    Yeah fuck this..enjoy lads. Can’t be fucking bothered…👋🏻👋🏻

    • Kloppmeister

      I so we all want to say but I know we’ll see you back for the second half

      • Riiseandshine

        YNWA until today…today they can all fuck off

        • see you next game then

          • Riiseandshine

            If they sign someone between now and then otherwise….nah

          • I was there mate, but I keep coming back.It’s like that for more than 20 years.Like poison really

      • we as a LFC fans are masochists…we love the pain

        • Kloppmeister

          No pain no gain would be fine, but we need the gains (trophies)

    • nico250gto

      Cant understand (and yet deep down i know) why we face the same probs every season

      • Riiseandshine

        Going to take my 2 yr old to the park

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        it’s the physicality. get in our faces. watford are likely to be the toughest at doing it. it’s what you do when you’re outclassed.

        • nico250gto

          Yep. They are really tough type of team. 2nd balls always ended up being beaten

  • Quicky Zebra

    regroup at halftime.. sort out the defence and midfield

    • Redandyouknowsit

      Thought that was what pre-season was for…

      • Quicky Zebra

        Ba dumm tsst*

  • RedOrDead

    Played some sublime football pre-season…what’s happened…maybe because there’s no Solanke on, or even Kent, Woodburn, Ejaria???

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      there wasn’t any physicality in pre-season.

      • RedOrDead

        Yeah…just clutching at straws really 🙁

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    this is good old fashioned english footy that fans love to watch. It’s crap footy and goes nowhere in Europe but you have to beable to defeat it here in England. hate it.

  • gegenpressing

    Occasion getting to Salah a bit

  • wrong, wrong wrong…

    • Kylian Mmmbopp

      RIght

  • OldFlaky

    If you think Sky is bad, try beIN, fucking cunts!

  • It’s worrisome when you think that the guy who can change this wants to leave.

  • Quicky Zebra

    Matip a shambles today

    • he was never strong aerially, but today he is awful all around

      • Quicky Zebra

        A shame with his towering height and all… Shouldnt we just bring back sakho

        • He no longer plays for Liverpool nor considered a CB

        • I can’t forgive his celebrations against us,and walking away prior to the Derby game.I would like a new signings or a new defensive coach.This looks like a bad organisation too

  • I am utterly dissapointed with Matip.We will need 2 cb, Manolas and VVD

    • Jason Patel

      He was shite in pre season

  • Ian96

    Once again the tarts get bullied off the park. Wankers the lot of them

  • Klopp just wants the half time and the talk.

  • gegenpressing

    Seems Migs doesn’t want to be starting keeper after all

  • Ian96

    What a pile of shite. Same old crap. Nothing has changed

  • Quicky Zebra

    blitzed through bayern.. struggle against watford…

  • RedOrDead

    Maybe controversial, but I’d replace Firms with Solanke at HT

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      agree

    • Why the fuck not right

    • Redandyouknowsit

      Not controversial at all on current form.

    • Quicky Zebra

      we can bring on the brazilian ronaldo.. we’re still conceding like a sunday football player

  • Shaun Frost

    I think Sakho in the backline helps. He is not the solution to all issues but, I still feel he offers more than Lovren.

  • This is terrible. Surrendered the intitiative.
    Hello guys. THE SEASON HAS STARTED!?!

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    How come nobody screw Migno for that freekick. It is elementary error. Should be docked 1w wages at pro level

  • Quicky Zebra

    No one taking ownership of the ball from mignolet.. wth!!!!!

  • Jason Patel

    Klopp’s gonna be angry half time.

    • He’s angry now! He’s talking to Himself there

  • Right. Half time needed..and a giant frikkin HAIR DRIER!

  • nico250gto

    Migs being migs

  • Class Migs….

  • gegenpressing

    Should’ve used his right foot

    • Jason Patel

      Yes wtf was he thinking?

  • RedOrDead

    Unlucky Salah – should have at least hit the target though

  • Hafidz

    Fir,imo is nothing without coutinho

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      seems like a direct game doesn’t suit him

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    Firmino needs to switch on and shape up. his decision making has been poor all summer

    • Squizzums

      Worried about his mate leaving.

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        yeah, could be, and he got married.

        • Squizzums

          I thought Coutinho was his wife.

        • Koma

          He got married like 3months ago?

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            managers say players are useless for 6 months after getting married. Need 2 years to fully get it out of the system and knuckle down properly apparently

  • RedOrDead

    Is it me or has Firms been pretty non-existent so far?

  • Jason Patel

    Shite Salah!

  • RedOrDead

    FFS Mane – a yellow card – think about us Fantasy Football Leaguers man

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    physical games, our achilles heel. we were well set by the run in last season and dealt well with it – lucas helps in those.
    we’re a bit fresh here. not up for the fight

    • Jason Patel

      They’re not even parking the bus

    • They ran round the stadium couple of times I heard.

  • Jason Patel

    Were they offside for the second?

    • Kylian Mmmbopp

      Nope. Our backside was off

    • Quicky Zebra

      Matip or Lovren’s leg played them on

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      think the guy not in play was off not sure about the leading guy though

  • Aamir Bakshi

    I am sorry but VvD wont solve our defensive problem. Maybe a bit but i think it is all down to the organization of our defensive set-up which is just shit under Klopp tbh…

  • Riiseandshine

    Pure shite

  • gegenpressing

    Henderson should be in the refs ear… being a prick

    • He doesn’t do that kinda shit. he’s a nice guy.

  • KLOPP IS NOT A HAPPY CAMPER

    • RedOrDead

      He’s not the only one!

  • Hafidz

    just fucking sign somebody after this game

  • nico250gto

    Story of lfc for the past 25yrs…we never learn.

  • Saravana Kumar

    Can can’t beat kaboul….wtf

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    Can is a fucking shit show today

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    so we have to score 3 to win!!

    • Koma

      3 more!

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      at least

    • RedUntilDead

      That could be every game this season

  • Hafidz

    tell we have enough cb then Klopp

  • OldFlaky

    Bad referrrinng again!

  • Shaun Frost

    Klavan should be in for Lovren.

    • I would replace Matip today.had high hopes for him but lad can’t jump,second goal was his doing too.

  • Bunch of us predicting Pool to win the title are looking damn foolish now… Sigh

    • gegenpressing

      Still early doors… Chelsea started shaky last season

    • Drewster

      Doesn’t help that Couts fucked us straight after that

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    at this rate we’ll concede 152 goals this season

  • Jason Patel

    They’re destroying our left flank

    • Squizzums

      Surely that’s not Moreno’s side. He’s been reformed, yea?

      • Koma

        Don’t think it was his fault though.

  • Riiseandshine

    Seriously I could put my fist through a wall right now……WTF!!!!!

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      standard day in the riise household then

      • Riiseandshine

        Only when this band of cunts are playing

    • I say…there’s this demolition job see…

    • Kloppmeister

      Can’t live without football, can’t live with it. What a life

      • Riiseandshine

        Misery

  • Saravana Kumar

    Throw Every single penny to soton…and get him here by next week…..
    When are about to give him a chance to play… he does it again…..

  • Aamir Bakshi

    Wingers not tracking back? Can being careless with that throw in? back to normal then…

  • RedOrDead

    Fucking Keystone cops defending again – our Achilles heel has just not been addressed in the TW WTF!!!

  • Time to bid £200m for VVD

    • add my £10 too, what can you do ,3 days until my salary check

  • Quicky Zebra

    Ok Soton.. Here’s 75m.. GET VVD ON BOARD NOW

  • Hafidz

    are we just conceded ?

    • RedOrDead

      Yep – 2-1!!

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    oh ffs, what a shit show.

  • shameful

  • Riiseandshine

    So I have a delay…fuck sake

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    What a lag. Mane’s goal hasnt arrived

  • Kloppmeister

    Man that was so fucking easy, disgusting

  • That’s terrible.

    • gegenpressing

      Seemed like a lot of things went wrong

  • gegenpressing

    Was almost like we just decided to score

  • Koma

    Fuck

  • Wtf was that.

  • This team has consistently shown now they know how to come back from goal downs

    • And right on cue. Sigh.

      • Kloppmeister

        Are you really speaking about us 🙁

  • Saravana Kumar

    How the fuck

  • Stromdiddily

    What the fuck

  • Jason Patel

    Fuck

  • Jason Patel

    Now squeeze the life out of them lads!

  • Tide is back in our court

  • OldFlaky

    A goal don’t get more beatiful then that!

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    great flick from CAn, perfect 1st touch from Mane and a wonderful finish.. well done boys. and inside 30 too. perfect.

  • Riiseandshine

    Can better than hendo…fact!

  • gegenpressing

    Mane’s finishing though

  • Koma

    Hey that’s how you beat a deep defending team.

  • RedOrDead

    When Can makes a quick decision, look what happens!!

  • Settle down bitches.
    Mane is the name.

    Beautiful chip was it from Emre!

  • Riiseandshine

    That’s It!! More like it

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    Fuck, can u guys post 2 mins after-events.

    WHat happened?

  • Kloppmeister

    What a beautiful goal, finally some life from the players

  • gegenpressing

    Wow..

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    fucking brilliant goal.

  • Now score 3 more

  • Jason Patel

    Why are Barca after Coutinho? Mane a much better replacement for Neymar!

    • Aamir Bakshi

      Oi!!!!

    • Quicky Zebra

      The more I think, the more I feel Salah is Cout’s replacement

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        apparently it will be Mahrez!

    • Kloppmeister

      Dude wtf

  • RedOrDead

    Mane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Fucking get in

  • Aamir Bakshi

    THAT FLICK THO!!!

  • Dennis Chong

    MMMAAANNNEEE!!!!!

  • sublime

  • Quicky Zebra

    Get in!

  • Saravana Kumar

    Shankar….u win!!!!

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    nice goal

  • Drewster

    Mane mane mane

  • Jason Patel

    Mane!

  • RedOrDead

    Wouldn’t mind a 4-2-3-1 for 2nd half:
    Moreno – Lovren – Matip – TAA
    Can – Henderson
    Salah – Firms – Mane
    Solanke

  • Riiseandshine

    Perfectly fine out ball to Moreno on..Henderson ” no I’ll try this intricate chip to Mane” fucking gerrard wannabe

  • Quicky Zebra

    Now we know why Klopp wanted Keita.. The drive from midfield..

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    standard from Can

  • Hafidz

    think we arent ready

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    now the cunt finds his whistle

  • Redblooded Male

    Too early for M&S to switch wings?

  • Shaun Frost

    What is Lovren even trying?! Always just kicking it long aimlessly…
    Need to stay calm.

  • RedOrDead

    As good as Can is, he takes soooo long to make a decision

  • Riiseandshine

    Henderson needs a good kick up the hole..useless

  • gegenpressing

    We are playing their game right now…. need to keep the ball on the ground

  • Aamir Bakshi

    It’s not even like they are parking the bus or anything. We just look inept right now. passing – not there, understanding – not there, Form – not there, just hopeful punts over the top.

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    horrible transition play. both between defense and midfield and mid-attack

  • Salah mane bob all neutered atm

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      no midfield to support them

  • Quicky Zebra

    we can’t be playing like this against Hoffenheim

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      this midfield is in trouble. can’t control anything, making the front guys run all over the place for no effect.

  • Tide is slowly swinging back.

    • Kylian Mmmbopp

      Like in the first six minutes…

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      ??? to ineffective football maybe

  • Redblooded Male

    Forgot Gini was even playing.

    • Kylian Mmmbopp

      He isnt playing

    • Shaun Frost

      Its an away game!

    • Kloppmeister

      Yeah where the fuck is Gini, haven’t seen him do jack

      • MentalAndBookmarked

        gini doesn’t control the midfield he helps it. If the MF isn’t effective he has nothing to do of use.

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    I am afraid Mignolet will only show up every December..

  • Riiseandshine

    We’re playing long ball football….all that talk and we’re playing fucking long balls…..fuck off.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      they’re drilled to getting into our faces. either pass quickly around them or pass it over them with your pacey runners

      • Riiseandshine

        It’s an easy out because our useless midfield aren’t mentally equipped to deal with any pressure…always fall apart when anyone puts it up to them

  • I think we’ll cover that opening goal on FOARtv Tactical next week

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    mane trying too hard. keep your heads guys, play together, lay it off, pass it quick, they’ll run themselves out.

  • Aamir Bakshi

    The midfield 3 of Gini Can and Hendo is too bland. Zero creativity or flair. All good passers but not proper playmakers….

    • Redandyouknowsit

      They came up short last season when these 3 played together.

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    Zero shot at goal atm

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      bad opening period. they are more physically up for it and that’s the difference.

      • Jason Patel

        This

  • Saravana Kumar

    Some looks like playing for first time together…… Not organised ….

  • Zonal just doesn’t work. There is lack of defending responsibility in the box.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      worked for rafa

      • Not for this team. And Rafa ain’t here.

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          glad you pointed that ouut

          • Seriously though, they need defensive assignment. How many times has there been uncertainty. Who’s man is that? I thought it was urs etc…

          • Riiseandshine

            Keepers fault…

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            tlhey work defensive lines quite thoroughly – to the point it’s hurt them at times. It’s the runners and 2nd balls that seem to be a problem

          • Well then . One nil Watford off a corner directly headed in with Bob looking gape pers

          • MentalAndBookmarked

            bobby really doesn’t know how to defend

          • Missing Couts already!

          • Jason Patel

            The problem is that they stand like fucking statues! Henderson needs to slap them all in the face before set pieces!

  • Aamir Bakshi

    That goal looks worse on every viewing….

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      it’s championship footy

  • Emre getting some words from boss

    • herrdoktorprofessor

      if you want a new contract then stop being a lazy cunt

  • RedOrDead

    You know what, even though Couts wasn’t going to play today, announcing that shit 24hrs before KO will always affect the team – when one of your star players says he wants to leave when the manager is building something around that star player, the others just slump their shoulders & must think – here we fucking go again

    • Riiseandshine

      Bollocks…what are they kids? Man the fuck up and play

      • RedOrDead

        Bollocks back to you 🙂 They’re still human beings 🙂

    • Koma

      Don’t agree at all. This is a mistake since my childhood. Nothing has been done since then.

      • RedOrDead

        Don’t understand what you mean?

        • Koma

          I mean the way we have conceded the goal, it is the same mistake we do, every season. That should not be related to Phil’s exit. We need to change defending systems.

          • RedOrDead

            I don’t disagree, but star player tantrums do have an affect on people

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    It is weird that we stretched the team in preseason so well and lost a few XIs. What a season it will be

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      most teams lost a few players

  • herrdoktorprofessor

    Bobby and Can just a ball watching all the live long day.

  • Riiseandshine

    Blame lies squarely with Klopp…too much faith in this pack of arseholes. We’re so easy to play against with this three in midfield

    • Squizzums

      Last season–all campaign–a Hendo, Can, and Gini midfield proved to be creatively lacking.

      • Riiseandshine

        It’s pathetic

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    It is the blady ref’s fault

  • Riiseandshine

    If we could win a second ball maybe? That’d be cool

    • Drewster

      There wasn’t one, free header

      • Riiseandshine

        Talking about general play…mignolet should have had that chance corner if he wasn’t such a useless cunt

        • Drewster

          He wouldn’t be my first choice

  • Kloppmeister

    Physically getting out played

    • gegenpressing

      Yeah… Watford are the biggest team in the league

  • Squizzums

    Can’s defensive positioning on corners–he marks whoever is on the penalty spot, then releases him while he makes sure he keeps the penalty spot in his pocket. Every. Time.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      yep. is he told to let him go to the next man? don’t like it if so

      • Squizzums

        He can’t be that daft not to learn over time. Seems like it’s the taught defensive strategy. And it’s a poor one.

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    Can is such a bad marker in the box. always lets his player go. maybe coaching to stay in your zone but it’s regular.

    • Drewster

      Migs should’ve come for that

  • Koma

    They are playing better, fearless football.

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    Told you so…

  • Riiseandshine

    Writing on the wall already..same fickung weak mentality from the same weak players. Midfield is pure shite

  • Jason Patel

    They look more up for this currently

    • At home. Opening day. We just need to stay with them.

    • Drewster

      They do, we haven’t woken up yet. I think Couts bombshell fucked to morale of the team

  • Hafidz

    thats why coutinho leave

  • We got this. No probs. We have to give them half ball.

  • MentalAndBookmarked

    emre just let him go. didn’t stay with him, noone attacked the ball at all. terrible, zonal not working at all

    • gegenpressing

      Something fundamentally wrong with how we set up on set pieces

  • Kloppmeister

    Guess it’s for sure how this season will be – like every season, leaky defence

  • NG

    The nightmare begins….. Come on Reds!!!

  • Koma

    Statue!!!

  • RedOrDead

    Deja vu – 6 defenders marking ‘space’

  • Riiseandshine

    Beyond pathetic…

  • gegenpressing

    Yup

  • Riiseandshine

    Haha….right! Fuck me

  • Aamir Bakshi

    Old Habits never die….

  • Drewster

    Migs should have come for that

  • RedOrDead

    Fuck me!!

  • Jason Patel

    Fuck sake, statues at set pieces

  • Hahaha can’t defend corners

  • Saravana Kumar

    Same shit

  • Kloppmeister

    Dude wtf, this is BS

  • Riiseandshine

    TAA huge gap left……again!

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      cos he’s up the pitch, where he’s told to be

  • RedOrDead

    Great save Miggo

    • RedOrDead

      scratch that – great block Lovren

    • gegenpressing

      Not sure he got to it

  • Migs is the best goalie ever in the history of the vurld

  • same mistakes again

  • Dennis Chong

    MMMIIIGGGSSS!!!!

    • Dennis Chong

      Not Migs after all

  • Riiseandshine

    Midfield non existent as ever

    • Kloppmeister

      Yeah wtf was that

  • OldFlaky

    Need a non-acestream link, my vmware-image died!

  • Saravana Kumar

    Who is going to score Liverpool’s first goal…for the season

  • Love his glasses. Gonna get me one.

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      I thought his first pair he had here were the best. these are a bit harry potter

    • Jason Patel

      Look forward to seeing them on FOARADAY

  • Jason Patel

    We’re playing pretty direct

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      good. that’s necessary for PL. klopp knows….

      • Jason Patel

        Yeah it was arsenal’s sideways passing got them in trouble yesterday

        • MentalAndBookmarked

          I didn’t see it, was it a good game?

          • Jason Patel

            Brilliant! Leicester so difficult when they’re up for it

  • Don’t touch my baby Mane bastard!!!

  • Redblooded Male

    Hate when Mino doesnt stay up front.
    You’re a no.9 now!

    • MentalAndBookmarked

      call him bobby, mino is the name of that arsehole agent….

    • Mino is more a size 59

    • Koma

      Don’t think number would decide him game play.

      • Redblooded Male

        Then why change?

  • If you were relying on text commentary above, it’s broken. Early season technical bug.

    Will iron out another day

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    Oh no! Another baldy ref….i cant believe it

  • migs trying to scare us

  • Redblooded Male

    We’re gonna win right?

  • Drewster

    Hello All, at a 5 year olds birthday party. But at least there is beer and a tv

    • Riiseandshine

      They start drinking early in Australia!

      • Drewster

        Probably, but even more so in South Africa

  • Come on YOU REDMEN!!!!!
    LETS TEAR SOME BUTTHOLES!!!!!

    ok a bit too dramatic there! hee

  • Kloppmeister

    Here we goooooo

  • Dennis Chong

    MMMIIINNNOOO!!!!!!

    Oh, false alarm. Had to make sure the cheering mechanism still works…..

  • Saravana Kumar

    Come on boysssss

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    Win or Dead

  • Riiseandshine

    Sky sports aaaaaannnd sound off…aaah better 🙂

    • OldFlaky

      What do you hear?

      • Riiseandshine

        “Coutinho cloud…” didn’t get past that..sound off..sick listening to it

  • Kloppmeister

    Anyone notice that Klopp has changed to granny glasses 🙂

    • OldFlaky

      I love nanny glasses!

  • gegenpressing

    Mane looks like he got KO’d

  • Quicky Zebra

    Do we have game changers on the bench?

    • RedOrDead

      Only Solanke, which is why we need reinforcements!

      • gegenpressing

        Sturridge should be back midweek, said Klopp

        • RedOrDead

          Yeah, I’ll believe it when I see it – I remember the same predictions last season when he had a ‘minor’ injury – he wasn’t back for months.

          • gegenpressing

            He must’ve started training for Klopp to say that… Guess we’ll find out

          • Riiseandshine

            He said he’s okay for Tuesday

    • Jason Patel

      Milly (don’t laugh)

      • Quicky Zebra

        #newMidfieldSigning

        • Jason Patel

          He was great as a sub at city and he’s underrated as an assist provider.

          • gegenpressing

            Yeah, I’m certainly more comfortable with him as that than in our starting 11

          • Jason Patel

            Me too

    • Kloppmeister

      Decent bench – solanke, origi, grujic. With studge and couts back we’ll be pretty well set

      • gegenpressing

        Think the form they are in matters more than the names of the players… confident players are game changers

        • Kloppmeister

          Yes of course, but big names just means guranteed quality that’s all.

  • Jason Patel

    Wonder what’s happening with Sakho. Haven’t heard anything on him being sold.

    • gegenpressing

      Yeah, everything quiet on that front…same with Markovic, I guess

      • Jason Patel

        Yes, you’d think if we sold those two, we’d more or less balance the books again.

        • RedOrDead

          Ha – and there lies the problems – I appreciate the tongue-in-cheek comment, but it still feels like we’re balancing the books. 3 weeks of TW diatribe still to go, so hopefully things change for us.

          • Jason Patel

            I don’t mind if we do so to be honest. If we can’t get the big signings, don’t waste money on mediocre players.

          • gegenpressing

            Which we have done too many times in the past…wonder why we have only focused on big money signings though… surely our scouting department must have some unknown gems that we could take a chance on (apart from Solanke)

          • Jason Patel

            I think it’s because it’s difficult to improve on what we have. Even our U23 team looks very strong.

          • gegenpressing

            Hope so… there’ll be pressure if we don’t do the business today

    • Kloppmeister

      Yeah, hoping it’s not another season of him on the bench, getting paid and not playing any games.

      • gegenpressing

        That won’t make sense both for the player and team…plus every time the defense messes up, he’ll be brought up

        • Kloppmeister

          Yeah doesn’t make sense, but we’ve been holding out for 30m. It’s either us accepting a low ball offer (as clubs know we’re desperate to sell) or keeping him on the payroll

          • gegenpressing

            Pretty sure he won’t be there at the end of the window… maybe a couple of bad Crystal Palace results and they’ll pay up

    • Koma

      Looking at how the TW has gone, I am secretly hoping sakho apologizes quickly and klopp bringing him in our squad. Don’t really care about Lazar anymore. Used to feel sorry for him.

      • Kloppmeister

        He probably already has last year mate. It’s not going to change, best to let him go. Too much negativity there

      • Jason Patel

        Seems doubtful since he’s not training with the squad

    • That Coutinho family member was Sakho! 😂

  • RedOrDead

    The flames of Anfield Rd are roaring – the Redmen will respond to the roar of the away fans & that front 3 of Liverpool will decimate any defence this season – while the media plague us with transfer distractions, the true red fans will focus on one single goal today – destroy the opposition in style. Redmen we need you today.

    Just watched the highlights of Arsenal vs. Leicester on BBC from last night – what a game & advert for the EPL – so so delighted the football returns.

    All the best to you for this season FOAR family – let the Reds reign supreme.

    • Jason Patel

      Great game last night, thought Arsenal were finished!

      • gegenpressing

        Another example of how you can lose a game from the bench… thought Leicester made the wrong subs

        • Jason Patel

          Yeah brought in a striker and conceded immediately

  • Koma

    Owen says we should let Phil go. Fucker.

    • Kloppmeister

      Yeah what an asshole

      • Jason Patel

        He’s a Manc, should have nothing to do with the club

        • Kloppmeister

          God knows why he’s the ambassador. At least knowing that he is, he needs to choose words carefully. Hate the guy.

          • Jason Patel

            Yeah we should get rid. Very unpopular with fans.

    • Kylian Mmmbopp

      Geez why must u print or mention that scum here. Pls dont ever. Again.

    • Riiseandshine

      The guy that ficked off and ruined his career….that guy?

    • Dennis Chong

      Like how we were made to let him go?

  • Why is the PL trophy at Amex stadium? B&H

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    I predict a 3-goal win margin. I dont see any threat at all in watford lineup.

    • gegenpressing

      Hope all 3 of our front 3 open their accounts today..

    • Riiseandshine

      Mignolet and Moreno? 😉

      • gegenpressing

        At least you stay consistent…lol

        • Riiseandshine

          Never let it be said that I ease off 😂

    • Saravana Kumar

      Not to underestimate…the manager is good… but we have a better one…hehehehe

    • Kloppmeister

      No but they’ll play defensive and be hard to break down

      • gegenpressing

        At home on the first day? Fans won’t like that especially an early kick off

        • Kloppmeister

          But that’s Marco Silva’s game plan. I think fans will be more understanding as it’s a hard game for them too. Having said so, I’m hoping for a 3-1 win

        • Koma

          They need results. Their fans would want them to stay up.

  • Koma

    Feel we are very flat in the midfield. Hope mane and Salah pull through without the help of a creative midfield.

    • Jason Patel

      Then again the flanks are very fast! Hendo plays great through balls and looks to go over the top too. Time for Gini and Can to stand up.

      • Koma

        Yeah buy still. Let’s hope they do rise up their game!

  • Jason Patel

    Typical that Coutinho, Studge and Lallana injured at the same time! That’s your creativity right there! Could do with Woody on the bench rather than Grujic.

  • Saravana Kumar

    24 mins to go…

  • gegenpressing

    Wonder if at some point this season we will see Bobby played in the midfield and Solanke or Sturridge as the striker… Could be interesting…

    • Jason Patel

      In 4231 maybe, but Studge not good as a lone striker

      • gegenpressing

        Yeah… Solanke was my preferred option but realized that it’s probably too early for him. Hope Origi responds to his presence by having a fantastic season

        • Jason Patel

          Yes Origi is the obvious choice for that formation.

          • gegenpressing

            Yeah…he needs to prove a lot of people wrong this season…

  • Kylian Mmmbopp

    Is lineup out?

    • Hafidz

      scrolll down

  • Riiseandshine

    I heard two “pundits” this week claim that Watford finished tenth last season….seriously

    • gegenpressing

      The Liverpool family is bonkers… I LOVE it!!!!!

    • OldFlaky

      Must be up early if he is in Cali…

      • gegenpressing

        I’m on the same time zone but then, I’m not a superstar…at least, not outside my house

        • OldFlaky

          But you are the King Of The Castle!

  • Hafidz

    I think we’ll see The Mad Klopp today…

  • Redandyouknowsit

    Need the game to start and the goals to flow to put the window out of our minds for a couple of hours.

  • Happy 100th game boss!!!
    May there be another 1000 more!!!

    • special siren

      Just read after a 100 games Rodgers has a better win ratio. I hate the papers.

      • Me too.🙁
        At least Klopp is better looking!

        • special siren

          He certainly is.

  • gegenpressing

    Really looking forward to seeing how the fullbacks interact with the wingers…Klopp put his huge balls on the table there…

    • Jason Patel

      Frightening

      • gegenpressing

        Yeah..I can just imagine him with a crazy look in his eyes, snarling and grinding his teeth as he puts his hairy balls on the table…oh, yeah the wingers are frightening

        • rubs balls with glee

        • Jason Patel

          I’m scared, might go back to bed!

  • Flaky pls you have link?

    • OldFlaky

      For porn?

    • OldFlaky

      Need to copy back the old vmware-image..brb…

    • acestream://ea7b69ee6a574d023e7d0fa03d1400677c4bb855

  • Hafidz

    does transfer windows actually has opened yet ? cause our line up almost looks like the same as last season :p

    • it closed yesterday. too bad.
      couts aint going no where.

      • Hafidz

        hope so dude

    • gegenpressing

      We were actually quite good last season when we had players fit

  • Riiseandshine

    TAA as much as I like him, he’s a worry defensively. Keeps leaving huge gaps. Moreno is Moreno…pretty worrying full back situation..

    • gegenpressing

      Must mean that Klopp expects us to have most of the ball and not be attacked much…the midfield is pretty defensive so maybe that will help..

  • angelmaker72

    I would have preferred 4-2-3-1, Can, Gini and Hendo as the midfield three is lacking that spark. I hope they prove me wrong though.

    • Riiseandshine

      It’s pedestrian at best…this lineup just shows how badly we needed signings..

      • angelmaker72

        Still do, the window is still open… now is the time to act decisively though

        • gegenpressing

          Fans been saying that all summer

    • gegenpressing

      With that front 3 plus bombing fullbacks, that midfield probably gives us the best balance defensively

      • angelmaker72

        I really hope so, we could all do with a resounding win

        • gegenpressing

          Just want 3 points… resounding will be a bonus

  • Riiseandshine

    Alberto Moreno….😳🙈

    • gegenpressing

      If he manages to resurrect his Liverpool career, it will be the biggest one since Lazarus..

      • Riiseandshine

        Mission impossible he’s just too stupid

        • gegenpressing

          Well, guess the only way is up then

      • angelmaker72

        I really hope he does

  • Riiseandshine

    Can everyone in the world just please shut the fuck up about coutinho…

    • OldFlaky

      Let’s just drop C from the alphabet!

      • Riiseandshine

        Wanted to watch the build up but that’s ruined now….

        • OldFlaky

          What build up? Working on my build up here…

    • Jason Patel

      You just mentioned him!

    • gegenpressing

      Not going to happen though… it’s good copy…

  • angelmaker72

    Mignolet, Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Matip, Moreno, Henderson, Can, Wijnaldum, Salah, Mane, Firmino.

    And the subs are: Karius, Klavan, Gomez, Milner, Grujic, Solanke, Origi.

    • Riiseandshine

      Most likely

    • OldFlaky

      Preferred lineup!

      • Riiseandshine

        That’s the lineup

    • hmmm…this lineup was leaked earlier.
      disturbing

      • angelmaker72

        Very Joe, being a Liverpool fan doesn’t get any easier

      • gegenpressing

        It was? Seems like the obvious one though

        • angelmaker72

          The front three maybe but TAA and Moreno?

          • gegenpressing

            Thought that was nailed on…no Clyne and Milner needed elsewhere

          • angelmaker72

            Gomez and Robertson?

          • gegenpressing

            Too early for Robertson…not sure about Gomez

          • angelmaker72

            I guess, worth a place on the bench though

        • Yes it was leaked half hour earlier

    • Jason Patel

      Wow! Moreno starts and Milly on the bench! All the best TAA you’re going to be a star!

  • Hafidz

    waiting for line ups here

  • Riiseandshine

    3-0 Liverpool. Coutinho won’t be missed…hope solanke starts ahead of origi

    • gegenpressing

      Hope whichever gets to play kills it…

    • angelmaker72

      That was my prediction too, fingers crossed we’re right!

  • Also, we have yet another new feature…

    A tactical analysis of the game today written by our resident tactical guru Midhun.
    Please have a read.

    The link on the right column or in the commentary box above! 🙂

    • OldFlaky

      Read it and he isn’t actually hyping up the game to be exciting, rather more exiting of boredom 😀

      • Who knows man! The rest of us are leaning on 3 or 4 goals for us.
        Bullish…but is that wise?

        Time will tell.
        Hope that Couts news didn’t throw the lads off the wagon.

  • For anyone unable to watch the game, Live commentary of the game by Aamir is above. It will be constantly refreshed with updates as the game progresses pre and post game.

  • fazza

    Hoping that we hit the ground running, the last few days had been a bit of a downer bring the cheer back reds

  • OldFlaky

    Still confused about Couts, give us another year and win the title…or…look how we do without you…

    • Stan Dinaround

      Look how little we miss you, and thanks for the obscene fee… The world has lost its grasp on reason… How is he worth 4 times Salah?

      • OldFlaky

        Woodburn will take his place next year…

      • Riiseandshine

        He’s not

  • RobbieTheReindeer

    Got beers in the fridge and my defibrillator in arms reach come on liverpool

    • OldFlaky

      I feel I need that defibrillator already…

  • RobbieTheReindeer

    CMON BOYS!!!!!

  • Delhi Belhi

    Bobby F. madness incoming

  • GOLDEN family <3

    It’s happening lads.

    • OldFlaky

      Feeling thirsty!

  • Forget everything show all your anger towards Watford

  • Saravana Kumar

    Screw everything else…
    Let’s start the season with a bang….
    Let’s go boys!

  • Jason Patel

    Yay! Real football is back! 😁

  • angelmaker72

    Yesterday’s multiple “announcements” really killed my excitement and enthusiasm for this game 😠

    • OldFlaky

      Nah, we will get over it, other fish in the pond…

      • angelmaker72

        I know but the timing could only have been worse if he’d emailed his transfer request this morning

        • Stan Dinaround

          Who has so little respect that they email.. might as well have texted it . Coward

          • angelmaker72

            Exactly, totally spineless Stan!

    • It’s usual for us .. from Torres to Suarez now couts.. football is back n that’s more than enough to forget stupid transfer news

      • angelmaker72

        I’ll be glad when the transfer window shuts

  • OldFlaky

    Only 2 hours left and meanwhile let’s say cheers!

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