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Has the Midfield turned into a problem for Klopp and Liverpool ?

Liverpool used to be a club who’d be the bully in Transfer Market during the golden days. We’ve turned into more of a selling club in the last few years. The lack of success has really been the issue that has indeed led to the poor showings in the transfer market. However, we do have a Top 4 finish this year and one of the best managers in the world in our dugouts. Jurgen Klopp is a name that most players would want to hear. Having said that, our dealings in the transfer market so far is nowhere near okay. We got in a winger in Mohammed Salah and a Left back on Andrew Robertson. We’ve also wrapped up the signing of Dominic Solanke, who won the Golden Ball in the U-20 World Cup for England. While Salah and Robertson would provide proper cover for our problems in their respective areas, we still lack presence at the heart of the defence as well as the midfield.

However, our two main targets for those 2 roles, Virgil Van Dijk and Naby Keita has been marked as “Not for Sale” by their respective clubs. Although Van Dijk deal might happen, Keita will still be a Leipzig player next season. And with Barcelona selling Neymar and Iniesta ageing, Coutinho seems to be on the verge of departure as well even though Klopp has denied it.


Barcelona have a huge kitty now and it wouldn’t be a surprise if they use a major portion of that on Coutinho. The little magician would be a massive asset for Barca but also a huge loss for us. Losing Coutinho will be a big minus for our midfield. With Jurgen planning to unleash the Brazilian from the centre of the midfield, inorder to bolster the creativity and utilise the most out of him. Coutinho leaving would indeed be a disaster now having lost out on our main target, Naby Keita. We have Henderson, Wijnaldum, Can, Lallana, Grujic and Ejaria for that 3 man midfield. With Lallana out injured we are left with very few options now. Considering that we will have games up thick and thin this season, the number won’t be enough and we’d fail miserably. One could argue that we could use the players wisely but if we are really going to mount a title challenge, we need more depth.

The 3-man Liverpool midfield will have one sitting deep just ahead of the 2 CBs and the other two playing a little high up the pitch. If you look at the current squad, Henderson,Can and Coutinho seems very likely to be the 3. While Lallana would challenge for Coutinho’s role and Wijnaldum and Grujic will push for the role that Can does. What happens if Henderson gets injured ? That would just add more problems. Klopp has used Wijnaldum in that role already in pre season and he did look okay. Can has also had experience playing that role in the 15-16 season. Our Wonderboy, Ben Woodburn has also been used in the midfield pretty much by Jurgen and he has also looked very good there.

The question is, “Is it enough ?”. We’d be playing 3 games in 7-8 days and although we have options, it isn’t what a top team would look like. We can’t obviously play the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona with Woodburn or Ejaria or Grujic in the midfield, atleast not now. Whilst many would argue that Grujic is ready, he hasn’t had proper gametime and has also had his fair share of struggles with injuries last year.

There is still time for Liverpool to do something in the transfer market. It’s hard to find better players in just one glance. It is said that Klopp wants only those players who are better than the current crop. If you do proper scouting, you’d still manage to get two or three really exciting names. Kovacic and Seri are two of those names who’d be a very valuable addition to our team. The need for a midfielder has become much more crucial than what it was a few weeks back. With just 25 days remaining in the transfer market and the season starting next week, we need to get the deals done quickly if we want to sign someone. As a result, a midfielder has become more of a priority signing rather than just a bonus.
Rithwik Rajendran
Liverpool fan from India and former writer for Mad About EPL. And an Engineer in the making. Co-runs the The Nutmeg Assist football blog with a couple of friends.
https://thenutmegassist.wordpress.com/
  • RedNeve

    Souness banging on about his belief that ‘We Won’t keep Couts’
    Just fuck off!
    Even if it’s what he thinks he doesn’t need to say it!
    He knows what we are like as fans! He captained us ffs!!
    So again,
    Souey, Just fuck off!!

  • BenderRodriguezIII

    We don’t really have a midfield apart from Coutinho. I don’t rate anyone else. Manchester City looks really really good.

    • Adam Taylor

      Trust me Man City will be inconsistent it will take time to bed in all those players into a new team and a different league and they have no idea how they will cope with the Prem. And of course we have a midfield check the team sheet with more options this season with Milly and Coutinho free to play there now. Plus the youngsters breaking thru

      • BenderRodriguezIII

        Let’s hope you are right but I am dredding this season without Coutinho. If we are lucky we may finish 6th.

        • Adam Taylor

          Don’t worry Dude Coutinho is staying at least another season

  • Adam Taylor

    As a old skool fan we never really bullied we just silently brought, we identified good players (many nobody had heard of them before) and got them in.

    The Barnes saga was brilliant as he wanted to play abroad, if not only for Liverpool or Arsenal we gave him a deadline it went pass then we said we don’t want him and he came cap in hand begging to join. But I guess we don’t have that pulling power nowadays and footballers weren’t so money motivated then.

  • Ash

    Sky sources: Source close to Philippe Coutinho says the Brazilian attacking midfielder would like to move to Barcelona if a deal can be done amicably with Liverpool.

    We are told Coutinho will not rock the boat at Anfield and he would only leave Liverpool for Barcelona.

    Liverpool’s position has not changed – Coutinho is not for sale and he signed a new five-year contract in January.

    We understand Barcelona have not contacted Liverpool since their initial £72 million offer was firmly and immediately rejected 18 days ago.

    • Onyx

      Good, let them buy Eriksen, Ozil, Lemar or Dembele, or 2 out of those 4.

      • Ash

        I like that they’ve left it for 18 days. That suggests they’re not massively confident to me or they’d be back within a week with a new offer.

        Dortmund quoted them 100m euros for Dembele.

        • Onyx

          They find, like any other buying club atm, that buying is very difficult because money is all around now.

          • Ash

            Yeah and everyone knows they have the Neymar money. It sounds absurd but in these times £72m opening offer for Coutinho sounds pretty derisory.

            And that was before the Neymar money came in to them so even if it was going to be considered it should be over £100m.

            I just wouldn’t trust that Edwards or whoever would get a replacement in the door this window.

          • Onyx

            Woodburn needs a good season with many minutes. Then Phil has a brilliant World Cup and decides to stay at LFC to win another title and the CL. Happy days.

        • jolive

          Neymar was still with them 18 days ago. I think it was more an attempt to appease him so he might stay. If we have an agreement for Keita next summer, (that he comes whether we are in CL or not,) Couts could go with my blessing, bored of barca and the circus every window, although that’s letting them win i suppose.

  • 44yearsAfan

    “Liverpool used to be a club who’d be the bully in Transfer Market during the golden days” very poignant opening line to this article, only problem is we are now behind the oligarch teams who have taken our place at the top and we are being left behind like the rest to feed on the scraps. we have fallen from being the mighty reds to the tighty reds and i am beginning to believe that FSG are here to squeeze every drop of profit from OUR club they can then sail of into the sunset when a billion pound plus offer comes in for the club. i thank them for rescuing us from a fate worse than relegation but it is now time for them to start competing on an even keel and match or better offers for players we need to challenge or just simply go and put the club in the hands of someone who will deliver on the failed promises of the last 26 years. for far too long we have been the nearly men and its about time the shadow was lifted from our once great club. im not saying FSG out just yet but i want to see ambition ON the field as well as off it. Klopp should have been the catalyst to greater things but it seems that even he is powerless against the people in charge and if he doesnt get what he wants i can see him saying “FUCK IT, I’M OFF” which would yet again set us back god knows how many years. we have started again so many times recently and it is disheartening to say the least. what next for us is on a knife edge as the manager versus the board will come into effect if coutinho is sold and VVd does not arrive. where will we be in 22 days when the window shuts all rests on the battle that seems to be going on behind closed doors. fingers crossed its a Klopp win and the board submits to his will

    • Jason Patel

      Why would Klopp join LFC if all he wanted was to buy the league?

      • Adam Taylor

        Klopp likes to develop players instead of buying, we have good youngsters and I think he wants to work on them if he can’t get his primary targets

        • Jason Patel

          Some of them are excellent too. Gomez and TAA look ready to go, Grujic and Solanke look like good impact players and Woody really looks like a star in the making.

          • Adam Taylor

            Exactly Klopp has a good rep for developing talent. Plus now they are a year older and a bit more experienced some of them are ready to start breaking into the first team. Klopp likes to mould his players his own way.

          • Jason Patel

            I’m really excited about Woody. His goal the other day and the chipped assist were the sort of thing you expect Coutinho to do. In fact on LFC TV they mistook the assist as being from Coutinho initially!

          • Adam Taylor

            What I like about him is that look in his eye he has hunger and a point to prove he reminds me of the old skool players we used to have that will to win at all cost never give up same as Stevie G.

      • 44yearsAfan

        who said anything about buying the league ? im on about him being backed when it is required not just buying for buyings sake as Klopp himself said, i want it done properly and if the manager wants a player as he clerarly did with vvd then i dont want FSG fucking about and to-ing and fro-ing over the transfer, go and get the player that the manager who they employed wants. for too long we have had owners who have fucked about with OUR club and it needs bringing to a head, ask yourself this, if FSG sell couts from under Klopp’s nose then what reaction do you think he will have to that? he has said couts IS NOT FOR SALE but there are already reports Tom Werner has met with barca reps and sealed the deal, whether they are true or not is irrelavent but the question remains. they are on a hiding to nothing undermining Klopp as if he doesnt like it he will just walk away, the best manager we have had since Rafa and i personally think Klopp is a much better manager and if we lose him it means we start again. we have had to many setbacks over the years and we simply cannot afford to start again AGAIN

        • Jason Patel

          If we sell Coutinho for 90m then something stinks at the club. That hasn’t happened yet though and I think the Keita and VVD or nothing stance is a bit of Wenger like stubbornness from Klopp personally.
          Can understand our midfield is harder to improve, but to get a better CB than Gomez and Klavan shouldn’t need a 70m signing. Having said that Sakho hasn’t gone anywhere yet.

          • 44yearsAfan

            agree with the couts part i dont want him gone but money talks with the yanks. yeh the wenger stance is a bit of a puzzle for me as there has to be other players in his mind in case we dont get the “first choices” Gomez is almost ready for me but may be a bit of a carra type player for a season or 2 before he finds his best position which is looking like right side defence but can play multiple defensive postions, even as a DM for me, NOW AS FOR SAKHO, i cant believe for one second that Klopp would have him back in the fold having frozen him out last season and all this preseason. he is nothing but trouble and has delusions of grandeur way above his station. if he doesnt go this summer then itll be because he, A – wont go anywhere for less than he is being paid now, B- he doesnt get a CL club as publicly stated he wants, C-is happy to sit on his butt and pickup a hefty wage as the clubs interested arent of a high enough status for him and his childish ego. if he has any ambitions of playing in next years WC then he has to leave and for me the sooner the better, he burnt his bridges the second he refused to sit on the bench in the derby when voldemort was manager

          • Jason Patel

            I agree it’s unlikely Sakho comes back into the fold, but if we’re so desperate to sell, why the 30m price tag? Maybe he’ll do a Moreno and bring him back as a new player at some point! 😁

    • Onyx

      Just saw an interesting article on the echo. In stead of focussing on the few big deals done, focus on the deals that didn’t happen. How many strikers did united wanted before they turned to Lukaku? Real only sold a non-starting striker for an insane amount.

      Keita, no deal. Van Dijk, still no deal. Koulibaly, no deal. Manolas, no deal. Naingolan, no deal. All these were supposed to move on the 1st of july. 120M bid supposedly rejected for Mbappe. The total amount of transfers is very low as it is.

      So many transfers who haven’t gone through (yet) shows that just bullying the smaller teams doesn’t work so much.

      • 44yearsAfan

        im not saying bully anyone Onyx just set your sights which Klopp said he had, and get the targets which Klopp said where being sorted, now unless i misunderstood what he was saying back in may then we should have the players he wanted and he said he would have them in for preseason. seems either he was lying, placating us monkeys or knew all along what was and wasnt happening. if there is nothing to spend dont bullshit us, if you have the players in mind you want then get them if they are available and if you dont want players then fine tell us that too, we arent children who havent a scooby what they are doing so dont treat us as such, if it wasnt for us these spoilt fuckers wouldnt even have a job so show us some respect instead of just taking the piss.

      • jolive

        Ha, so sky have basically fucked themselves.

    • Adam Taylor

      I think most transfers will be concluded in the last week of the window

      • 44yearsAfan

        im not so sure now AT, Klopp said before the season finished the players he wanted were in the pipeline and deals getting sorted, wtf happened there mate ?

        • Adam Taylor

          Maybe he just playing mind games we will have to wait and see

          • 44yearsAfan

            i get that too mate but we are in no position to play mind games with anyone in this league, if Salah, Keita and VVD were his primary targets then so far it is a 33% success rate. im cool with Salah as he has shown well so far, Keita i was never to bothered about and would have liked but i see VVD as essential to complete the defensive side of our team for next season. if we dont get him then im sort of ok with that as Matip and Lovren did well when played together but neither are exactly injury free players are they and if either one is out for any number of games we leak goals like a sieve boat, yes we need a player to be DM but we may have that with Can, Hendo or Gini that would offer some protection to whoever plays in defence but having at least 5 defenders to choose from that are premier league std is a must for us this season given the amount of games we will play, seems like im on one today, not ranting just speaking my mind i spose

          • Adam Taylor

            You are entitled to you’re old skool and you want the best for the club. Transfers are complex now with agents, image rights, loyalty payments etc to be sorted.
            In our days the manager either rang or sent the club a fax or just turned up at the player house with a contract. Its all cloak and dagger bluff and counter bluff now as the money involved is obscene and everybody wants their cut.
            I agree we need a CB and if we can see that so can Klopp, VVD has now verbally told Saints he wants to move and he has his heart set on coming to LFC that is a good sign so far and shows the pulling power Klopp has I think it is edging closer bit by bit and in the next week or so he will put in a transfer request.

          • 44yearsAfan

            defo old skool AT but im ok with the modern way football is played out im just not ok with the whole you tapped him and they tapped him bollocks. it is all sneaky sneaky nowadays and clubs get players to do the dirty work and then jump in when they know the player is wanting away but our lot typically fucked the VVd deal right up. no one said a fucking thing when saints tapped him from celtic after they agreed to pay the asking price but they cry like a bitch when it happens to them. we need him to hand in a written transfer request or it just wont happen for me.

          • Adam Taylor

            Agreed Saints are difficult they know how to get the max revenue for a player, they are a selling club and have been doing it for a while to everyone they are making it as difficult as possible they know the game inside out now. They are just waiting for the transfer request to be put in so they can get more of a cut of the transfer but I believe it will happen.

    • Adam Taylor

      Breaking news sunshine Virgil hands in a transfer request!! Told ya! Cool like the Fonz

      • 44yearsAfan

        It was my post that did it ya know, he must have read it and thought oh crap 44yearsafan is proper miffed now so i best sort out my shit 😂. Seen it AT but its a long way from being done, there is the chavs to contend with who you well know have a bottomless pit and conte will be livid if he misses put on another top target (which will be fine by me btw), and there will be pthers who would want him now he has handed in the request. Its now a poker for us and who will throw the chips down first i think. Hopefully he is ours and hopefully it will be trouble free from now on mate, fingers crossed eh

        • Adam Taylor

          Well then we can only thank you 44yearsasAfan ! He is coming to us he is sold on LFC and Klopps vision for him and us, like Shanks did when he brought Yeats! BTW they banned me on TIA got to go down and see them with the lads sort them out!

          • 44yearsAfan

            Haha thanks AT, hope your right pal but until i see him leaning…… yeh tia have gone absolute bonkers on posters and i just go on and have a giggle now, if i wanted to go on a kids site i go on cbeebies or sumat like that for the restrictions they are imposing but i still do my posting, FOAR is far more liberal and much better banter with expletives allowed which in turn creates a better atmosphere for the more adult minded of us, much better content too and greater insight for me

          • Adam Taylor

            Apparently they put me in the sin bin for 24hrs for retaliating Souness style against some dickhead troll I’m gonna kick his head in when I get his IP address which will be soon I have friends in high and low places! : )

  • NorseDweller

    The answer to the question posed in the title is that a team without a defensive anchor in midfield, preferably one combining ball-winning physical steel with the ability to pick a pass and rapidly move the ball, will struggle in the Prem.. We have been outfought and overrun in midfield for a number of years now and this has served to further expose our already erring back line…

    • Jason Patel

      Our midfield was very dominant last year, our downfall was occasionally counter attacks and most often set pieces

  • Abbo Dave

    Salah offers to relieve some stress for a misfiring Origi. Proper teammate, that.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGesdcFWAAIvKMT.jpg

    • OldFlaky

      Is his hand as quick as his feet?

      • Brighton Red

        or is he saying where is it then ??

    • jolive

      Salahmaycum

      • OldFlaky

        Salahmayones

  • jolive

    There’s a fair chance that the Couts thing was more to do with trying to keep Neymar happy, hence the timing of the bid (i hope). The midfield problem is that Lallana has no back-up. Considering he leads the press and the fact it was noted in his absence last term, means somebody needs a cock-punch

    • RedNeve

      Hahahaha
      Cock punch 😂

  • RedNeve

    Coutinho is better than the rest of our midfielders. Infact, he’s so good he brings the best out of the rest. It’s imperative we keep him and work the rest around him. That’s in no means a slight on the others it’s just how it is. Selling him (And I don’t think we will) will be indicative of where we are and where we want to be as a club.

  • Abbo Dave

    I hear Aquilani is available on a free. Kinda looks like a cancer patient these days, though, so fitness might be an issue.

  • Jason Patel

    Well someone certainly felt like having a good moan! We have Can and Hendo for the 6 role and Milly, Grujic, Woody, Gini, Lallana and Ejaria for the 8 even if we lose Coutinho. By the way, we won’t let him go without a couple of signings.

    • GOLDEN family <3

      Well Gini is not that good to turn you into a title contender neither is Can. Keita was as essential as VVD hence Klopp went as far as bidding 60+ millions. Let’s just not considered Woodburn, Grujic and Ejaria. They are kids and still learning. Milly is a good back up but by no means worldclass.

      • Jason Patel

        Gini, Hendo and Lallana dominated every midfield we came up against last year. Add Coutinho, Can, Milly and the kids to that and it’s a very good set of players.

        • GOLDEN family <3

          Dominated every midfield we came up last year? They were really good but far from the best. Keita is need to win against the bus parking teams.

          And I really like Milner his hardworking attitude is amazing but at the same time it’s painful to watch him play week in week out.

          • Jason Patel

            Which midfield won the battle against them?
            Certainly none of the top 6.

          • GOLDEN family <3

            It’s not the top 6 that concerns but small bus parking team. We need Keita like player to start quick counters. We get so many chances for counter attacking goals but our players fuck it up most of the time. Even Mane with his speed take to many touches and wastes time.
            On top of that no player breaks attack like Keita.

  • Elvis Gegen-Pressly

    The whole article is based on the assumption that Coutinho leaves. If Leipzig can ask us to jog on with Keita, why we couldn’t ask Barca to jog on irrespective how much is on the table? Didn’t we hold the same type of cards as Leipzig (if not better)?

    I don’t think midfield is an issue for us at all. VVD transfer should be it and we are ready for the season. Keita is a luxury if we sign him now but doesn’t mean we cannot do squat if we don’t have him.

    • jolive

      I know ‘a fool such as i’ shouldn’t argue with the King, but if you watch Keita and the amount of tidying up he does, we could’ve knocked another 10% off our goals against tally. Virgil signing would’ve been the cherry on top imho.

      • Elvis Gegen-Pressly

        You’re no fool and I’m no king… =)
        But you could be right about Keita but we aren’t sure. As of now, I think we are good at midfield considering we have Couts at the top with 2 running at the base. Gutted that Lallana is injured, else we have a very capable deputy for Couts and Woody! At the base, Can, Hendo and Gini should be good.

        I see VVD as the cream rather than cherry…. but what do I know since I sing most of the time.

    • GOLDEN family <3

      Well tbh midfield is a bit issue. For some reasons midfield action was surprisingly awful this preseason bar couts. Gini and Can not good enough to be starters of you want to win something legit.

      • Elvis Gegen-Pressly

        There’s Hendo… and Grujic + Woody & Ejaria. I think that we are good there. Our leeky defense can be largely down to poor defense rather than midfield.

        • GOLDEN family <3

          Hendo us awesome he is one of the best players we have but he is getting injury prone now.

          Grujic , Ben and Ejaria are good for the future. We will have a hard time keeping him in two years time. But none of them can win you shit now.

          Just imagine why would Klopp go as far as 3 bids and the last one being around 80 millions if we didn’t needed an upgrade on Gini/Can in midfield.

          • Elvis Gegen-Pressly

            Keita is possibly an upgrade but I don’t think it’s doom and gloom should we not able to land him now.. that’s all.

          • GOLDEN family <3

            Coupled with VVD he could be a difference between winning trophies and not.

  • Stan Dinaround

    Since the day we sold Xabi to Real , we have had major issues in midfield, and then when we sold Javi Mascherano to Barca , we pretty much said fuck it, we dont know what the fuck we are doing… Not much has changed.

    • Riiseandshine

      ^this

    • Quicky Zebra

      I still don’t understand the logic of getting Gareth Barry which caused Alonso to want to leave and Barry ended up at City! The lowest point of me supporting LFC was during the Hodgson era.. ever since then we were always in rebuilding mode.. wishing for a straightforward transfer window has never been possible for us.

      • gegenpressing

        Last summer’s transfer window was pretty straightforward, no?

        • Quicky Zebra

          We wanted Zielinski but got Gini. Wanted Goetze and got Mane. Wanted Dahoud but decided to wait for next season who eventually ended up in Dortmund.

          We moved on pretty quickly last season. Not sure if we have any alternatives this time round.. seems like a All or nothing approach.

          Not sure if this squad is adequate for europe with our present injury record.

          • gegenpressing

            Dont think fans were too encouraged last summer either but it turned out alright. Maybe the transfers this season are more of additions as opposed to structural like last season. Hard to what the manager really wanted as 1st choice as Mane and Goetze don’t seem like any kind of alternatives to me. Think the success of last summer has bought the management some trust for me, so I’ll wait till the window ends before slating them.

  • Brighton Red

    midfield is not the issue, getting VVD is, Keita is a player who wasn’t necessary but would be nice to get if we could, we NEED to get VVD ~ and I think we will.

    • jolive

      can’t agree mate, players like Kante and Keita do so much work that it allows for an extra luxury player on the field. With the free flow we play it can make a tonne of difference.

      • Brighton Red

        for sure having Keita would be great but what I mean is if we can only have VVD or Keita I’d pick VVD because I think strengthening central defence is more important ~ just how I see it.

        • jolive

          we won all but one game when Lovren and Joel started, which to me means we lack mobility ahead of them as well. Glad i’m not a football manager mate

          • Jason Patel

            Yes but the games they weren’t available? Keita is an improvement, but a CB better than Klavan would make a huge difference.

  • C American Con

    I think center back is far more of an issue. We have plenty flexible players to cover the different areas around the midfield should injuries crop up or hopefully games come fast, but at center back we’re very limited. I’m generally a fan of the work being done by FSG, but missing out on two top transfer targets and having no plan B would be a complete shambles. If transfer deadline closes and we don’t have a center back then I’d question the clubs intent with the VVD bid and certainly the Keite bid.

    • Jason Patel

      I think you’re right, I hope it’s not some Wenger like stubbornness from Klopp. It’s not that hard to improve on Klavan and we should do it.

  • Midfield is not the biggest worry for us it’s the cb option that’s the major concern for us. Lovern form is always a concern last year hopefully this year with much more restrained Moreno n disciplined Robertson we could plug the leaks.. as far as Phil is concerned he will go to Spain but not this year because it’s world cup year …

  • KeithSA

    Young Phil is going nowhere this year and I expect to see him in our lineup, yes silly money is always a problem but there are already rumors that Barca have moved on and are looking at other options. With the re-emergence of Moreno we have enough cover at left back so you can add Milner into the midfield battle as well. For me, waiting a year for Keita is not a total setback it could have been and the priority would be to bring VVD in. If we do get an injury to Lovren or Matip it could spell problems as Klaven has great games followed by very average games. Gomez while promising still needs time so that for me is our priority. More than enough cover up front with Salah, Mane, Firmino, Sturidge, Origi, Solanke and Kent with Ings still an outside bet, but more likely going out on loan would be better. Attacking midfield off Coutinho , Lallana, Grujic, Woodburn, & Gini is good. Box to box of Hendo, Can, Gini (as well), Milner, Ejaria is not bad either and with left back sorted, Clyne and Trent on the right with Flanno as a utility its not looking too bad. Yes throw in VVD and Keita and it would have been amazing.

    • You’ve made any words of mine unnecessary here, old man 😉

    • Stan Dinaround

      Sell Origi and keep Ings.. I have very high hopes for Ings, I just dont see Origi being intelligent enough to move his game forward to the required level.. He looks lost alot in the central role, and doesnt move the ball on enough to be an assist machine out wide… Infact, since Henry became a caoach with Belgium, Origi’s game has gone backwards…

      • KeithSA

        Harsh and I will agree to disagree, I think Ings will be moved on next year. Just don’t see him having the technical quality to get into the team. Great attitude etc but not the required quality we need. Solanke on the other hand could be the real deal.

        • Stan Dinaround

          He played a handful of games in which he did well, he scored goals and worked hard for the team.. He always looks interested, which we cant say about Origi.. But the fact he came via Burnley will always mean most will already have a dim view of him… I hope he kicks on..

          • Adam Taylor

            Just need to see if he is over his injury problems yet, oddly might do a job in midfield if he has lost pace like Barnes did but that maybe taking it too far

          • Stan Dinaround

            Barnes had a great footballing brain.. be nice if Ings did too.

          • Adam Taylor

            He works very hard always chasing down players has good passing and link up play he could do what Lallana does but its just a thought for now

          • Jason Patel

            I think time will tell on this one, will take at least until Christmas before he’s ready due to the length of his lay off I think.

    • Riiseandshine

      You’re going to be full now you have to eat all those pies yourself eh Keith…😉

      • KeithSA

        Start starving yourself mate:)

        • Riiseandshine

          😂 not even a remote chance of me having to eat any…

        • Riiseandshine

          Have you read Klopp’s comments? We’re signing no more players. The usual excuses and shit talk that comes from this pathetic excuse for a club when it comes to transfers..embarrassing failure from FSG and Edwards. Ran a mile when it looked like we’d actually pull the trigger on a real statement signing. Same shit, different summer. No humble pie necessary

          • KeithSA

            When we finish in the top 4 and second is my prediction and make it through to the CL quarters and semi is again my prediction you will eat:) For the record he has not said we wont sign anyone you are reading shite reports form shite sites. VVD will still come, Kieta probably not. I think Gertrard has a better handle then click bait sites

          • Riiseandshine

            Who’s moving the goalposts now? 🙂

          • Riiseandshine

            Reading Klopp’s quotes Keith 🤓

    • Riiseandshine

      Milner in midfield was a disaster before, why would it be any better a couple of years later? Ejaria, Woodburn, Kent, solanke are all kids that played well in friendlies, no comparison to the pressure of PL football. Coutinho hasn’t been seen since that second Barca bid. By no means a cert to be here in September. As for the Moreno comments, I’ll not even touch that one…Same every summer, I remember Bernard diomede scored an overhead bicycle kick in his pre-season…..it means nothing when the season starts

      • KeithSA

        Milner will play in the FA and league cups to rest Can, Gini and Hendo for the Prem and CL. Coutinho did not play due to a back injury and I am still baking:) Yes they are kids, kids that will play in the above cups letting the senior squad rest and play in the Prem and CL so as not to overplay and pick up too many injuries. Add a fit Mane and Henderson, not to forget Sturridge, into the mix with Salah and it is the same team but better that ripped a new one for all the top half of the table teams. That Klopp realizes how to beat the buss parkers will count in our favor so yes top 4 an almost guarantee with a credible challenge which will get very much better odds if we sign VVD and a very good run in the CL a very distinct possibility.

        • globalcockup

          Solanke to me looks more than ready from Premier league not only is he ahead of Origi he is a better player.

          • Brighton Red

            if the bus parkers want to sit deep it’ll be good to have him and
            Grujic in the box with crosses from Robertson and TAA and if they come out we’ll have Salah and Mane running in behind ………….

    • Pierre Levert

      I do like your belief in Moreno, you used an interesting phrase, re-emergence, sounds great but I am struggling to remember the original emergence, apart from the goal at Tottenham I think it was

      • globalcockup

        Maybe he was coached in the art of being a left back?

        • Adam Taylor

          And put his head down and worked hard the prospect of playing for and living in Watford gave him the kick he needed

    • special siren

      I’ve just read that guillem bloke, sorry forgot his name, saying coutinho has an agreement with barca. If this is true, liverpool haven’t reported them for tapping up so you would have to assume liverpool have given them permission to speak to him. It’s not looking good.

      • globalcockup

        Wait what.. gollum has inside information on transfers? Wow that ring is powerful!

      • KeithSA

        He knows fuck all he had an inside track to Rafa since then he has tried to remain relevant and gets things wrong on a regular bases.

        • special siren

          I don’t doubt it but I’m starting to worry a little.

          • jolive

            he was saying the same thing last year.

      • Adam Taylor

        The bloke says a lot but is mostly wrong

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